Edie,
I will continue to what I do.
Jabou Joh
In a message dated 2/24/04 10:07:57 AM Central Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Sister Jabou,
>
> You know what worries me here is the fact you don't understand either what I
> am saying or you just wanted to be as you always are. How can I explain
> myself and stance to someone who want to be difficult even if not necessarily
> required. What I am trying to say is the fact that, what benefit will you get
> from those? You need to build an objectives on how to get jammeh out of power,
> what means to use toward the objectives, Remember we have to position
> ourselves firmly to get ready for any kind of battle, and prices to pay will have to
> be considered, the place (whereby a better segment can be achieved) most not
> be forgotten and the "products" (which is democracy rule of law etc). how to
> get to our objective. Should we take a gun or should we hate yahya or should
> we face our computer and insult them day in and day out. What is your point
> here? Say and do whatever you feel but your have the head to think as well of
> the consequence and their side effect not to you personally but to the
> people on the ground too. I don't care whatever you say I just want be me NO
> FEAR FOR A TRUTH OR WHAT I THINK IS JUST, I CAN DEBATE ON IT TILL WILL GET
> TO OUR STANCE AND MAKE IT BE UNDERSTOOD. NOTHING PERSONAL SISTER.
> EDIE
>
> Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Edi,
>
> You seem fixated on this "insult the president" issue. I have come to the
> conclusion that for you, expressing my views and calling the APRC regime and
> Jammeh what they are, tyrants and dictators is what you call insulting them.
> I
> hope that you will learn how a democracy is supposed to operate one day
> soon.
> Just support those who have the courage and the conviction to fight on
> behalf of
> all Gambians, yourself included and you may both learn and enjoy the
> benefits
> of a true democratic government one day. If you would rather straddle the
> fence for self preservation by telling us that you are against the regime
> but have
> spent all your time on this list defending them, then we have seen the likes
> of you by the dozens, they are the ones who nurture the subjugators of their
> own all over the African continent, but we will still fight on your behalf
> for
> the sake of everyone else.
>
> Now, most importantly, if you are so convinced that what I have been doing
> is
> insignificant and no one is listening to me and Jammeh is all powerful, then
> what is your worry Edi? Seems to me that if you really belived that, you
> need
> not spend time debating me on that issue and informing me of this or is this
> your startegy of planting this amusing idea of yours into peoples' mind? I
> think those likely to pay attention to this infantile campaign of yours are
> already worshipping Jammeh so you need not devote any precious time to it
> because
> it is akin to preaching to the choir.
> All you need to do is ignore me and my tirades and be secure in your
> knowledge that
> what I and people like me are doing is insignificant. That's certainly what
> I would do if I were you because then what possible harm could I bring into
> such a secure situation huh?
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> In a message dated 2/24/04 2:06:14 AM Central Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> > Sister Jabou,
> > How long have you being shouting and like a government, or any
> organization,
> > the longer on are campaigning for your mission to persuating your target
> > groups alway matters hence it is expensive to carter for them. However,
> you it
> > take you long enough to persuade your targets without response, shouldn't
> you
> > check your tracks to see what you are doing wrong or you to continue
> spending
> > time and money in vain? it is that or should I say in your thaughts, one
> > have to us power against whatever dismays you? in other word, should I
> insult
> > the president or remain unstrategic to portray my dislike to the regime? I
> have
> > a class now, and most go.
> > Edi
> >
> > Jabou Joh wrote:
> >
> > No Edi, You did not make the above statement and probably never would. I
> > did.
> > What is my shouting doing? It is informing the World that we have tyranny
> at
> > home masquerading as a democratic government and killing our people and
> the
> > evidence is there for all to see, and we are just gettign started. Yaya
> > Jammeh
> > does not under-estimate what our shouting both on and off the net is
> doing.
> > Have you ever seen me insult Yaya Jammeh? I have called him a Tyrant and a
> > dictator which he is.
> > So you think we should sit and wait for Yaya to be driven out of power by
> > Allah? Allah decides all things but he is also against injustice and he
> > expects
> > us to fight it. Just read your Qur'an my dear.
> > You say you do not want Yaya in power, but are you really sure that is
> your
> > position? I am not looking to the U.N or Bush to get rid of Yaya for us,
> > that
> > is a simplistic view. We, the citizens who are standing up against this
> > tyrannical regime will do it, and no amount of lectures from you or anyone
> > else
> > will stop that.The likes of Jammeh like citizens like you who believe they
> > are
> > helpless and that government and political leaders are all powerful.
> > I do not go home because I am outspoken against this regime and have been
> > for
> > years now, and they imprison and threatend journalists for simply
> reporting
> > the news as it happens at home.
> > I do not go home because this regime just arrested, falsely charged and
> > falsely imprisoned a leader of one of the opposition parties for
> advocating
> > that
> > the people exercise their rights to demonstrate against the terrible
> > conditions
> > this regime has brought to bear upon Gambians.
> > I do not go home because this regime has dispatched rogues in the middle
> of
> > the night to pour gasoline upon and burn down a radio station and the
> > offices
> > of a newspaper simply for allowing the people to have a voice.
> > I do not go home because this regime has presided over murders and
> attempted
> > murders, the latest being that of an attorney who was defending a case in
> > which they were the plaintif, and not a single one of these incidents have
> > ever
> > been investigated and one has to conclude they have something to hide.
> > I do not go home because students demonstrating were ordered shot in cold
> > blood in the street like dogs by this regime. The list goes on.
> > Finally, I do not go home because I want to stay alive and continue doing
> > what I and others are doing until thsi regime vacates our seat of
> > government.
> > Have you been sent to entice people into going home so the tyrants can
> kill
> > us like they are killing innocent Gambians?
> > Who is listening to me you ask? Gambians who know they have rights and
> their
> > efforts can make a difference and they have a responsibility to stand up
> for
> > their rights, and our numbers are growing. Justice loving people all over
> > the
> > World who abhor tyranny and dictatorships. Yaya Jammeh is listening to us
> > also
> > Edi because he knows that what we are doing or saying is not
> insignificant.
> > It
> > has contributed to bringing other dictators who thought they would be in
> > power for ever, and they are now squirming before the people, and it will
> > contribute to bring thsi dictatorship down too.
> > People like you who attack those like me for standing up against injustice
> > are also listening to me and know what my shouting can accomplish
> otherwise
> > why
> > would you work so hard to try to stop us?
> >
> > Jabou Joh
> >
> > In a message dated 2/23/04 10:50:49 AM Central Standard Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > HAVE I SAID THE ABOVED MENTIONED? OR IS IT THAT YOU ARE JUST THE SAME
> > PERSON
> > > AS USUAL BY JUMPING UNTO CONCLUTION. BY THE WAY, NO ONE IS UNDERLYING
> ANY
> > > POSSIBLE ACTION THIS REGIME MIGHT DO, WHAT i AM TRYING TO SAY IS THE
> FACT
> > THAT
> > > IF YOUR ENEMY IS STANDING BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR PROGRESS AND MOREOVER
> MORE
> > > POWERFUL THAN YOURSELF, WILL YOU START INSULTING HIM OR PUSHING HIM OUT
> OF
> > YOUR
> > > WAY OR WILL YOU TAKE A SIDE LINE TO PAVE THE WAY ACROSS HIM? YOU KNOW
> FOR
> > > CERTAIN USING YOUR POWER WILL BE DEMINISH AND INSULTING HIM WILL KEEP
> HIM
> > > STADING ON YOUR WAY. WHAT WILL YOU DO JABOU?
> > >
> > > IF THEY ARE BAD, WHEN WAS YOUR LAST TIME IN THE GAMBIA? WHY IS SISTER
> NDEY
> > > VISITING WITHOUT FEAR? WHAT PROGRESS HAVE YOU MADE BY SOUTING ON THE
> NET?
> > WHO
> > > IS LISTENING TO YOU? WHAT REPONSE DO YOU GET FROM THE UN CONCERNING YOUR
> > > WORRIES? HOW ABOUT FROM BUSH?
> > >
> > > HEY IT IS ONLY GOD WHO CAN HELP GAMBIANS, HE GIVE US YAHYA AND WHENEVER
> > HIS
> > > TIME COMES HE'LL LIVE WITHOUT DOUBT. I DO NOT WANT YAHYA TO CONTINUE AS
> > THE
> > > PRESIDENT YET I BELIEVE IN GOD AND KNOW THE FACT THAT HE IS THE ONLY ONE
> > WHO
> > > CAN SAVE THE GAMBIA HE WISHES. SAYING I PRAY AND PREACHES DOES NOT MAKE
> > ONE A
> > > MUSLIM BUT THE INTENTION AND ATTITUDES TOWARD CREATION.
> > >
> > > AS YOU SAID YOU ARE A BUSINESS WOMAN, YOU CREATE A BUSINESS, WOULDN'T
> YOU
> > > PREVENT YOUR BUSINESS FROM BANKRUPTING? THEREFORE, GOD WILL ALWAYS
> PROTECT
> > HIS
> > > CREATION FROM BANKRUPTING AND NO ONE HAS THE POWER BUT HIM TO DISTROY
> THE
> > > PROUDS AMONG HIS BESTOWEE. THEREFORE AGAIN GOD'S TIME IS THE BEST.
> > > EDIE
> > >
> > > If they
> > > are bad, well, that is what the people are experiencing and that is the
> > > APRC
> > > record.
> > > I also think you are wrong that they did not listen to the program.
> > > This si a
> > > tyranny, remember?
> > >
> > >
> > > Jabou Joh wrote:
> > > In a message dated 2/23/04 8:20:33 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > You can even get Yahya on the line if only you are strategical from
> the
> > > > beginning. Go over to your postings and see your comments.
> > > >
> > > > I am not saying Yahya is perfect, but hearing the fact that you are
> > > getting
> > > > excited to seeing anyone coming with a bad remark on him personally
> will
> > > > deter him from listening or responding to your calls,
> > >
> > > Dom't you mean that Yaya and his supporters did not come on the program
> > > because they could not defend all the documented atrocities they have
> > > committed and
> > > which were being discussed, and which they know to be true? We are
> simply
> > > stating what is happening in The Gambia brother, we are not making it
> up.
> > If
> > > they
> > > are bad, well, that is what the people are experiencing and that is the
> > APRC
> > > record.
> > > I also think you are wrong that they did not listen to the program. This
> > si
> > > a
> > > tyranny, remember?
> > > If you want to come on the program next time and paint a good picture of
> > the
> > > regime, feel free to do so.
> > >
> > > Jabou Joh
> > >
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