oh, i heard on the new that the big u.s. drug companies were working with
the indian government to get cmany of the herbal remedies before the old
medicine men of that country dies out and ther secrets die with them. they
are or will test them to see if they are really good. they had found quite a
few that were working.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cleveland, Kyle E.
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 10/17/2002 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: co enzyne q-10

 IMHO, if a "remedy" can't be proven by The Scientific Method, than it's
probably placebo effect--which is not altogether a bad thing, but
otherwise
sane people put silly stuff in their bodies based only on anecdotal
evidence.  I remember a few years back when DMSO (di-methyl sulfoxide)
was
being used by folks as a "liniment" for arthritis pain.  My God!  The
stuff
was/is incredibly volatile and was being absorbed instantly through the
dermis.  It was known to cause incredible hepatic insult, but folks were
rubbing it on sore joints every day.  Turns out that the solvent was
giving
the nerve endings a good whack--thus relieving pain.

Of all the dumb bureaucracies we face, the U.S. Food and Drug
Administration
is one that seems to have its collective head screwed on straight.  So,
if
it ain't FDA approved, I ain't buying it.  Sure, shark cartilage, bat
guano
or pig snot may have some acute theraputic effect, but very little
long-range testing is done on this stuff.

The other thing that kills me (literally in some cases) is the claim
that
"natural is better".  Hell, foxglove is a natural calcium channel
blocker,
but I'm sure not going to chew on it because it's "natural".

My tuppence.

-Kyle

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Salkin
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 10/17/02 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: co enzyne q-10

Yes, but still you need to look at the labels and talk to your doctor.
It's
only common sense. :-)

Kat

On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:46:54 -0300 Carla MacInnis <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Kelp is not an herb - it's seaweed :)
>
> Kathy Salkin wrote:
>
> > May I suggest that anyone thinking of taking
> any of this stuff consult with
> > their doctors first?  Either one of these two
> substances can interact with any
> > prescription meds you're taking and could be
> dangerous.  I stopped taking Kava
> > a year ago because my neurologist said my
> meds would make it dangerous to my
> > kidneys and also dope me up too much.  So be
> careful of herbal and other
> > supplements.
> >
> > Kat
> >
> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:21:09 -0300 Carla
> MacInnis  wrote:
> >
> > > Read that on the CNN Page
> > >
> > > If you have fatigue issues, kelp might help
> > > you. But don't use it if you're
> > > taking thyroid medication. Essentially,
> it's a
> > > sluggish thyroid jump starter
> > > when script meds are not indicated.
> > >
> > > Also, there was a recent newspaper article
> in
> > > Canadian papers about the
> > > benefits of stepped up magnesium for pain
> > > management.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Carla
> > >
> > > "Barber, Kenneth L." wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did any of you guys pick up a news spot
> on
> > > this. My wife recognized it
> > > > because I take it for energy. Bobby put
> us
> > > onto knowing this. Anyway they
> > > > were saying that it helps in parkingsons
> > > disease. She did not catch the
> > > > dosage they were using.
> > >
>