please let me quit, if they lie under oath,
republican, democrate, independant, you name it, i'd
like to say they all belong in jail. unfortuneatly
some have gotten away with murder. no names this time.
no party affiliation either.

--- "K. Salkin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Your reply was more than welcome, by me! :-)  I
> honestly don't think
> Hilary's done what most male politicians haven't
> done, and because  she's
> female, she's vilified for it.
>
> You can't tell me most male politicians don't lie,
> even under oath.  You
> also can't tell me they don't change what they say
> just to get votes.  Them
> as has the money and the talk get the votes.
>
>
> Kat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Sands" <[log in to unmask]>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Ironies
>
>
> > I wasn't aware that my response was unwelcome.
> However, my "whoa" was
> > directed towards your answering Kat's question by
> telling us what Margaret
> > Thatcher DIDN'T do.  What has Hillary Clinton done
> that hasn't been done
> by
> > just about any man?  THAT was my point.  Think
> about it or don't, but
> > implying offense that I even
> responded...well...sheesh.  Calm down?
> >
> > I don't hate Hillary Clinton, so I won't pretend
> Kat's question was
> directed
> > toward me...but I won't pretend I'm not allowed to
> respond--if it isn't
> > something she wanted a response on, couldn't she
> e-mail you directly about
> > it?  If it's on the post, it's meant for everyone.
>  Right?
> >
> > I weighed in, and I apologize if doing so was
> inappropriate, but I really
> > don't think it was.  I'm beginning to wonder, Ken,
> if I'm welcome on the
> > list.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 1:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ironies
> >
> >
> > > besides you can't say whoa, when kat ask us the
> why?
> > > and i directly answered her question that i
> think was
> > > directed to bobby and to me and i guess
> indirectly the
> > > rest of the list. she did say "you boys."
> > >
> > >    lets be honest, mr clinton lied about an
> affair,
> > > but, he did it "under oath". and that is perjury
> and
> > > there are men and women in jail for perjury. it
> is a
> > > felony.
> > >    but again i agree with your point. as i have
> > > already said. the government is taking too much
> > > liberty with this war on terror, just as they
> have
> > > taken too much liberty with the war on drugs.
> due
> > > process is out the window if they catch you with
> lots
> > > of cash. they can take it and do it without
> proving
> > > that you did nothing wrong and even if you are
> > > innocent and never convicted, they can keep the
> money
> > > and/or property. jose padea (spelling may be
> wrong)
> > > took into custody for supporting terrorist.
> american
> > > citizen. they have not charged him, they have
> not let
> > > him get legal councel. this is very wrong.
> people have
> > > been killed by law enforcement that i think
> charged
> > > that they were into the drug business, when in
> fact
> > > the county just wanted the person's property. i
> am not
> > > a fan of government run amuc.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Scott Sands <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > Whoa.
> > > >
> > > > First of all, let's be fair about what Bill
> Clinton
> > > > did--he lied about an
> > > > affair.  How many men have done jail time for
> that?
> > > > Second, let's be fair
> > > > about what Hillary Clinton has done--she has
> run
> > > > campaigns the way
> > > > politicians have been running them in this
> country
> > > > for years and years.
> > > >
> > > > What George W. Bush has done to the office of
> > > > President and to the
> > > > Constitution of this country (particularly to
> the
> > > > doctrine of habeus corpus)
> > > > is far more troubling to me.
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Ironies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > margret thacher was a powerful woman. she
> did not
> > > > > switch her opinions with every poll or every
> focus
> > > > > group that met. i might add that she did not
> get
> > > > her
> > > > > power from a man she married. she did not
> run
> > > > > campaigns with hand picked news personnel
> that
> > > > would
> > > > > only ask questions that she wanted ask. mrs
> > > > clinton
> > > > > has never been in a public forum that she
> has not
> > > > > control who would be there.
> > > > >   powerful? not my definition of powerful.
> hate,
> > > > no
> > > > > lets usethe right word, despise is the word
> and
> > > > > whatthese two did to the office of the
> president
> > > > and
> > > > > to the constitution of this country is the
> reason
> > > > that
> > > > > i dispise both of them.
> > > > >   questioned answered.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- "K. Salkin" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Now com'on guys.  Why do you hate her so
> much?
> > > > > > She's a powerful woman but I
> > > > > > fail to see where she's so evil.  If
> you're
> > > > thinking
> > > > > > Whitewater remember
> > > > > > that her involvement was never proved in
> that
> > > > case.
> > > > > > I've seen far more
> > > > > > evidence of misuse in power by men and no
> one
> > > > bats
> > > > > > an eye.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm beginning to think that men fear
> powerful
> > > > women.
> > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> > > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 3:07 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Ironies
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > well, mag, i have been watching politics
> since
>
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