Judaism is a way of life.  It's not a race, despite what a lot of people
think.  If it were a race, Jewish people would be distinct from people of
other races, and we're not.

Kat

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:43:01 -0400 Michael H Collis <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Kat, I think Judaism is more than a religion.
> However, I agree that
> what Hitler did was far worse that what the
> Israelis and Palestinians
> are doing to the other.  That's why I qualified
> my statement by saying
> that "in some respects..."
> I also think violence begets violence, and
> until Israelis and
> Palestinians learn to absorb the vitriol
> originating with the actions of
> the extremists, there will be no peace in the
> Middle East.
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Salkin Kathleen
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:03 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Hi there!!! (Asbestos anyone?)
>
> Hoo boy have you got it wrong, in my opinion.
>
> What Hitler did was far far worse than anything
> the Israelis and
> Palestinians are doing to each other.  Hitler
> was attempting to wipe out
> a
> religion, and he succeeded, by 6 million people
> at last count.  That's
> not
> the case in the Mideast.  Not the way I see it.
>  The issue is over land
> and
> the right to settlement.
>
> And every time the Israelis try to declare a
> truce, a Palestinian
> extremist
> lets off another suicide bomb.  It's as if they
> don't want peace.
> Granted,
> Sharon has a lot to answer for with his
> 'hawkist' politics, but there's
> blame on both sides.
>
> I do believe with the gap growing between the
> 'haves' and the
> 'have-nots' in
> this world, the conflicts will only get worse
> as resources become
> scarcer.
> We're already seeing the effects of dwindling
> water supplies out West in
> our
> own country as states and communities fight
> over water rights.
>
> Kat
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael H Collis"
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:19 PM
> Subject: Hi there!!! (Asbestos anyone?)
>
>
> > This is the controversial topic I've been
> thinking about for the past
> > few weeks, ever since we started talking
> about the terrorists, Islam,
> > Hitler and the Jews, and the atrocities done
> in the past.   I find the
> > situation facing Israel and the Palestinians
> very ironic, in that in
> > some respects, I see parallels in what Israel
> is doing to the
> > Palestinians and what Nazi Germany did to the
> Jews.  I know the
> > situations aren't the same, but I think
> enough similarities exists to
> > make me pause and wonder which side is right,
> and which side is wrong.
> > The modern state of Israel has only been in
> existence for the past 50
> > odd years; before, I don't know what it was.
> I do know that the
> Israeli
> > government took land away from the
> Palestinians and made them leave
> and
> > settle somewhere else, and that the land is a
> major point of
> contention
> > between Israeli and Palestinians.  Do the
> Israeli's have ownership of
> > the land due to the United Nations' decree,
> and are the Palestinians'
> > protests that the Israeli's are trying to
> eliminate their culture
> > without merit?  I wish I had answers that
> were satisfying to me,
> because
> > I know where both groups are coming from, and
> I can empathize with
> both.
> > I just don't think there are any easy
> answers, and that's why I cringe
> > inwardly whenever someone starts blaming one
> side or the other.  I
> only
> > know that violence begets more violence.
> Jesus taught a third way
> > between violence and pacifism.  The older I
> get, the more his words
> ring
> > true to me.
> >
> > I'll put on my asbestos suit now!!!!!!!!!  :)
> > Mike
>