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"John Leeke, Preservation Consultant" <[log in to unmask]>
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"As good almost kill a man as kill a good book" -- John Milton" <[log in to unmask]>
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Can anyone recommend a tradesperson or contractor for wood window
preservation/repairs in the Washington DC, Maryland area?

John

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> There are 20 messages totalling 892 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. lives of the saints (2)
>   2. lives of the saints - So, Ralph, does that mean...
>   3. Screw Jacks (3)
>   4. Mott B. Schmidt, 1921... (2)
>   5. Gasometer, Vienna (5)
>   6. The BP salute at VAF (2)
>   7. Quoting a Duck (2)
>   8. conservation services directories (3)
>
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> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
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> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 00:42:37 EDT
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: lives of the saints
>
> >
> >In the medieval era, monks copied manuscripts at a certain monastery in
> >Ireland.  One day, a traveling bishop arrived, and he asked the monks
their
> >method of copying.  "We copy from the last copy," he was told.  "But you
> >should be copying from the original.  What if an error was made at some
> >point, and you have desecrated God's word by repeating this error?  I
suggest
> >you go into your vaults and copy from the originals."  So the best artist
was
> >sent deep into the vaults to examine original volumes.
> >
> >Well, he disappeared for a very long time.  Eventually, the other monks
> >became concerned and they descended the stairs to the lower vault, in
search
> >of the missing monk.  There they found him, head down on a volume,
weeping
> >uncontrollably, his loud sobs nearly shaking the thick walls.
> >
> >"What is it?" they asked him.  "What makes you weep so?"
> >
> >"The word is 'celebrate,'" he responded.
>
> -
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 08:03:31 -0400
> From:    Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: lives of the saints
>
> The Torah is still copied by hand.  Any mistake is corrected by removing
the entire page (a parchment sheet about 2' x 2') and relettering it all
over again.  Theoretically.
>
> Then there's the reason why Jews were believed to have horns:  the Hebrew
word that described light coming from from Moses' head was translated as
"horns."
>
> Ralph
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 08:06:48 EDT
> From:    Met History <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: lives of the saints - So, Ralph, does that mean...
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> In a message dated 5/30/02 8:04:09 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:
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> > Then there's the reason why Jews were believed to have horns:  the
Hebrew
> > word that described light coming from from Moses' head was translated as
> > "
>
> ...you really have Maglites coming out of the top of your head?
> Sign me,  Ray O. Vac
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/30/02
8:04:09 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:
> <BR>
> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
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described light coming from from Moses' head was translated as
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FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
> <BR>
> <BR>...you really have Maglites coming out of the top of your head? &nbsp;
> <BR>Sign me, &nbsp;Ray O. Vac
> <BR></FONT></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 08:31:33 EDT
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Screw Jacks
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> I have a client who is in need of two 10-20 ton screw jacks for an
upcoming
> project. Can someone give me some insight on where we possibly can find
them.
>
> Steve
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy
Old Style" LANG="0">I have a client who is in need of two 10-20 ton screw
jacks for an upcoming project. Can someone give me some insight on where we
possibly can find them.<BR>
> <BR>
> Steve</FONT></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 09:23:02 -0400
> From:    "S. Sasser" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Screw Jacks
>
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> Steve,
>
> I just recently bought a pair of 10-12 ton screw jacks on e-Bay, you =
> might want to check there.
>
> Lisa
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: [log in to unmask]
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:31 AM
>   Subject: Screw Jacks
>
>
>   I have a client who is in need of two 10-20 ton screw jacks for an =
> upcoming project. Can someone give me some insight on where we possibly =
> can find them.
>
>   Steve=20
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> e-Bay, you might want to check there.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Lisa</FONT></DIV>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 09:29:54 EDT
> From:    Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Mott B. Schmidt, 1921...
>
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> In a message dated 5/29/2002 10:15:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> > There was nothing else inside.
>
> Ouch! Reminds me of an architect that I know outside of histo presto, and
> respect greatly, whose business was built mainly on his contracts w/ IBM.
> Then they stopped building, his relationships within IBM departed, and he
has
> not a good idea how to "market" his talents.
>
> ][<en
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated
5/29/2002 10:15:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT:
5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">There was nothing else
inside.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:
#ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
> Ouch! Reminds me of an architect that I know outside of histo presto, and
respect greatly, whose business was built mainly on his contracts w/ IBM.
Then they stopped building, his relationships within IBM departed, and he
has not a good idea how to "market" his talents.<BR>
> <BR>
> ][&lt;en</FONT></HTML>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 10:54:11 EDT
> From:    Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Screw Jacks
>
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> In a message dated 5/30/2002 5:31:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> > I have a client who is in need of two 10-20 ton screw jacks for an
upcoming
> > project.
>
> Steve,
>
> A local construction supply outlet should have them on the shelf. Check
the
> yellow pages for Contractor's Supply or somesuch. Look for a place that
> supplies to concrete formwork, foundation or highway contractors.
>
> ][<en
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 5/30/2002 5:31:49 AM Pacific
Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3
FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px;
PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have a client who is in need of two 10-20 ton screw
jacks for an upcoming project. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
> Steve,<BR>
> <BR>
> A local construction supply outlet should have them on the shelf. Check
the yellow pages for Contractor's Supply or somesuch. Look for a place that
supplies to concrete formwork, foundation or highway contractors.<BR>
> <BR>
> ][&lt;en</FONT></HTML>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 11:25:21 EDT
> From:    Heidi Harendza <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Gasometer, Vienna
>
> In a message dated 5/24/2002 4:14:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask]
> writes:
>
> << Regardless,
>  this complex of masonry structures in Vienna are coal gas plants that
have
>  been adapted into a community including apartments and a shopping mall...
>>
>
> ][<en-
>
> I know of a similar project outside of Amsterdam, involving a huge
gasworks
> brownfields site. A friend of mine did a thesis on last year. It's become
a
> big festival area, with concert venue, etc.
>
> I guess gas is important to the Germanic peoples  :)
>
> -Heidi
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 11:38:41 EDT
> From:    Heidi Harendza <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: The BP salute at VAF
>
> I actually got a (modified) BP salute at the Vernacular Architecture Forum
> conference, when Johnette Davis and I met! (Awesome meeting you, Johnette!
> Sorry we didn't get a chance to talk longer!)
>
> I was actually thinking about BP a lot that weekend, since one of our
field
> trip stops was to Roseland, once the more lavish Virginia country house of
> the 18th century. It burned in 1916, and now it's remains (mainly the
brick
> exterior walls) are being preserved by a friends group. The masons working
on
> the project showed us oyster shells in the process of becoming slaked
lime.
> Got a chance to climb around on their scaffolding and check out the repair
> work too. Ok, so I know it wasn't the Nebraska State Capitol, but I felt
> adventurous.
>
> It was awesome to see in practice what I only read about on BP.
>
> -Heidi
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 13:56:40 -0400
> From:    "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Mott B. Schmidt, 1921...
>
> ...Elbert Hubbard, date unknown:
>
> "No man ever got nervous prostration pushing his business; you get it
> only when the business pushes you."
>
> _____________________________________________________
> Dan Becker,  Exec. Dir.    "Conformists die, but
> Raleigh Historic            heretics live on forever"
> Districts Commission               -- Elbert Hubbard
> [log in to unmask] =20
> 919/890-3678
>
> > In a message dated 5/29/2002 11:16:18 AM Eastern Daylight=20
> > Time, [log in to unmask] writes:=20
>
> >=20
> > "You see, I wanted to be an artist, and I also wanted to go=20
> > into business.  Business has always been one of the most=20
> > romantic things in the world to me.  So I went into=20
> > architecture, where art and business are linked."=20
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 15:46:30 EDT
> From:    Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Gasometer, Vienna
>
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> In a message dated 5/30/2002 8:26:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> > I guess gas is important to the Germanic peoples  :)
>
> ONEcat,
>
> Or is it a "memory" of gas they want to preserve?
>
> ][<en
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated
5/30/2002 8:26:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT:
5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I guess gas is important to the
Germanic peoples&nbsp; :)</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> <BR>
> ONEcat, <BR>
> <BR>
> Or is it a "memory" of gas they want to preserve?<BR>
> <BR>
> ][&lt;en</FONT></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 15:48:56 EDT
> From:    Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Quoting a Duck
>
> Quoting a Duck
>
> Inside of my ice tea bottle cap I learn today "Real Fact" # 36, "A duck's
> quack does not echo." Reminds me that telepathic chickens leave no traces.
> Also makes me wonder why a duck's quack does not echo. It may make Ralph
> wonder why I wonder.
>
> ][<en
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 15:49:30 -0400
> From:    Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Gasometer, Vienna
>
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
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> My recollection is that coal gasification was a major source of energy for
> Germany during WWII.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:47 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Gasometer, Vienna
>
>
> In a message dated 5/30/2002 8:26:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>
>
> I guess gas is important to the Germanic peoples  :)
>
>
>
> ONEcat,
>
> Or is it a "memory" of gas they want to preserve?
>
> ][<en
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> <DIV><SPAN class=440424719-30052002><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
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> recollection is that coal gasification was a major source of energy for
Germany
> during WWII.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=440424719-30052002><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
> size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
> size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ken Follett
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:47
> PM<BR><B>To:</B>
[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B>
> Re: Gasometer, Vienna<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT
> size=2>In a message dated 5/30/2002 8:26:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR><BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE
> style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT:
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"
> TYPE = CITE>I guess gas is important to the Germanic peoples&nbsp;
> :)</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>ONEcat, <BR><BR>Or is it a &quot;memory&quot; of
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 31 May 2002 05:53:13 +1000
> From:    =?iso-8859-1?q?david=20west?= <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: conservation services directories
>
> I'm interested in looking at how conservation services
> directories (contractors, product suppliers,
> consultants, other services) have been put together.
> Interest extends to both web and print media.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> I'm particular interested in comments about how the
> selection process is managed ... i.e. how sure can I
> be that listings in the directories really do have
> appropriate heritage conservation/preservation
> experience and skills.
>
> sign me
> "looking forward to the usual deluge of replies of a
> non-technical nature, and the occasional gem of an
> on-topic response"
>
> Cheers
> david
>
> http://www.sold.com.au - The Sold.com.au Big Brand Sale
> - New PCs, notebooks, digital cameras, phones and more ... Sale ends June
12
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 15:56:56 EDT
> From:    Heidi Harendza <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Gasometer, Vienna
>
> In a message dated 5/30/2002 3:49:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask]
> writes:
>
> << Or is it a "memory" of gas they want to preserve? >>
> My gas has a long long memory, but I can't speak for all those of German
> descent.
>
> -ONEcat
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 16:14:08 EDT
> From:    Mary Krugman <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: conservation services directories
>
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> In a message dated 5/30/2002 4:06:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> > I'm particular interested in comments about how the
> > selection process is managed ... i.e. how sure can I
> > be that listings in the directories really do have
> > appropriate heritage conservation/preservation
> > experience and skills.
> >
> > When Preservation NJ put together a preservation services directory, we
> > required names of completed projects, what % HP constituted in their
> > practice, and a description. I don't know that anyone was rejected (I
> > joined the project in its late stages), however, I do know that they
> > targeted their soliticitations to firms they already knew to be active
in
> > HP and did respectable work.
>
> Mary
>
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated
5/30/2002 4:06:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT:
5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm particular interested in
comments about how the<BR>
> selection process is managed ... i.e. how sure can I<BR>
> be that listings in the directories really do have<BR>
> appropriate heritage conservation/preservation<BR>
> experience and skills.<BR>
> <BR>
> When Preservation NJ put together a preservation services directory, we
required names of completed projects, what % HP constituted in their
practice, and a description. I don't know that anyone was rejected (I joined
the project in its late stages), however, I do know that they targeted their
soliticitations to firms they already knew to be active in HP and did
respectable work.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> <BR>
> Mary</FONT></HTML>
>
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>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 17:03:25 -0400
> From:    "J.A. Drew Diaz" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Quoting a Duck
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> Having sat in the wet, in the cold, in the blind with the shakes from the
> blind staggers, and the misery associated with duck hunting,  on more than
one
> morning on more than one lake I'm prepared to state that duck's quacks do
> echo......
>
> Ken Follett wrote:
>
> > Quoting a Duck
> >
> > Inside of my ice tea bottle cap I learn today "Real Fact" # 36, "A
duck's
> > quack does not echo." Reminds me that telepathic chickens leave no
traces.
> > Also makes me wonder why a duck's quack does not echo. It may make Ralph
> > wonder why I wonder.
> >
> > ][<en
> >
> > --
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> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 16:11:07 -0500
> From:    John Callan <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Gasometer, Vienna
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> Are these German peoples, the native peoples of Germany?  The indigenous
> peoples?  Itenerant meandering peoples who ended up in places like the
> Oley Valley and Milwaukee?  Is their preoccupation with gas genetic?
> How does it pass from generation to generation and migration to
> migration?
>
> I ain't got a bottle cap to give me answers today, only pinheads to set
> my mind awandering.
>
> -jc
>
>
> Bruce Marcham wrote:
>
> >  My recollection is that coal gasification was a major source of
> > energy for Germany during WWII.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Follett [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:47 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Gasometer, Vienna
> >
> > In a message dated 5/30/2002 8:26:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >> I guess gas is important to the Germanic peoples  :)
> >
> > ONEcat,
> >
> > Or is it a "memory" of gas they want to preserve?
> >
> > ][<en
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> Are these German peoples, the native peoples of Germany?&nbsp; The
indigenous
> peoples?&nbsp; Itenerant meandering peoples who ended up in places like
> the Oley Valley and Milwaukee?&nbsp; Is their preoccupation with gas
genetic?&nbsp;
> How does it pass from generation to generation and migration to migration?
> <p>I ain't got a bottle cap to give me answers today, only pinheads to
> set my mind awandering.
> <p>-jc
> <br>&nbsp;
> <p>Bruce Marcham wrote:
> <blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<span class=440424719-30052002><font
face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>My
> recollection is that coal gasification was a major source of energy for
> Germany during WWII.</font></font></font></span><span
class=440424719-30052002></span>
> <div class=OutlookMessageHeader><font face="Times New Roman"><font
size=-1>-----Original
> Message-----</font></font>
> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=-1><b>From:</b> Ken Follett
> [<A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</A>]</font></font>
> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=-1><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May
> 30, 2002 3:47 PM</font></font>
> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=-1><b>To:</b>
[log in to unmask]</font></font>
> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=-1><b>Subject:</b> Re:
Gasometer,
> Vienna</font></font>
> <br>&nbsp;</div>
> <font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>In a message dated 5/30/2002
> 8:26:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font>
> <br>&nbsp;
> <br>&nbsp;
> <blockquote
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0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"
> TYPE = CITE><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>I
> guess gas is important to the Germanic peoples&nbsp;
:)</font></font></blockquote>
>
> <p><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>ONEcat,</font></font>
> <p><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>Or is it a "memory" of gas
> they want to preserve?</font></font>
> <p><font face="arial,helvetica"><font
size=-1>][&lt;en</font></font></blockquote>
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> ------------------------------
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> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 16:16:21 -0500
> From:    John Callan <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: conservation services directories
>
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> I recently came upon a treasure trove of cultural resource folks of many
ilks
> fromt he California SHPO.  Unfortunately I stumbled onto it too late for
the
> project I was pondering.  But I think State SHPO's generally maintain such
> lists and anyone who claims espertise can be added.
>
> Best bet...people referring people...hard to get references from competing
> firms sometimes, but not always.  And of course anyone who is a pinhead
must
> have something going for him...minimally Indigineous german gas
> trasgenerational migration skills.
>
> -jc
>
> david west wrote:
>
> > I'm interested in looking at how conservation services
> > directories (contractors, product suppliers,
> > consultants, other services) have been put together.
> > Interest extends to both web and print media.
> >
> > Any recommendations?
> >
> > I'm particular interested in comments about how the
> > selection process is managed ... i.e. how sure can I
> > be that listings in the directories really do have
> > appropriate heritage conservation/preservation
> > experience and skills.
> >
> > sign me
> > "looking forward to the usual deluge of replies of a
> > non-technical nature, and the occasional gem of an
> > on-topic response"
> >
> > Cheers
> > david
> >
> > http://www.sold.com.au - The Sold.com.au Big Brand Sale
> > - New PCs, notebooks, digital cameras, phones and more ... Sale ends
June 12
> >
> > --
> > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 30 May 2002 21:08:18 EDT
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: The BP salute at VAF
>
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> In a message dated 5/30/2002 11:39:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> > The masons working on
> > the project showed us oyster shells in the process of becoming slaked
lime.
> >
>
> Heidi,
>
> Do you know who these masons are?
>
> Steve
>
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy
Old Style" LANG="0">In a message dated 5/30/2002 11:39:17 AM Eastern
Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT:
5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The masons working on<BR>
> the project showed us oyster shells in the process of becoming slaked
lime.<BR>
> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3
FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
> Heidi,<BR>
> <BR>
> Do you know who these masons are?<BR>
> <BR>
> Steve </FONT></HTML>
>
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