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Ray, I think you are blending two different issues. What I said about "across the board rights," I was referring to the general attitude here that certain peoples right should be fought for, and certain peoples rights should not be fought for. The lazy part was referring to people who claim to be Christian but are really just perpetrating. The original post was in reply to the coutries that want Kerry as president. I did not refer to people in other countries as lazy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kumapayi, Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2004 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: Ghanaians want Kerry In White House
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> Vera Crowell; you make pronouncements that insults the
> sensibilities of
> others yet when yours is questioned all of a sudden there is "an
> across the
> board" attitude you do not like. What "across the board" attitude
> are you
> referring to from one response? We are not all going to agree
> with your
> approach; I certainly do not! In fact, 'tis the reason why your
> agenda was
> questioned severally a few weeks back. In your write-ups on this
> subjectmatter, I feel your approach is condescending to other
> inhabitants of the
> world when you question the stability of their government as if it was
> relevant to the article. Most of these people are not lazy as you
> say and
> may not have a government of their choice. Learn that people are
> people;black, white or in between. You must learn to separate
> government from its
> people and secondly, USA was not always like it is now and has
> many, many
> areas in which to improve and some of these areas may be borrowed
> from these
> people you write of so lowly. There is no perfect country in any
> part of
> the world, the age of their constitution notwithstanding.
> Cheers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VERA R CROWELL [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:31 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Ghanaians want Kerry In White House
>
>
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> PS What I have learned by participating in this listserve is that
> onlycertain people deserve (I don't know who decides) to "have all
> the rights
> and deserve to be considered decently." It doesn't appear to be
> an "across
> the board" attitude here.
>
> PSS Since you brought it up, the world really has only two major
> issues:the people who don't know Jesus, and those that claim to,
> but are rebellious
> (disagree with Him and the Father, don't believe the Bible) and
> lazy (won't
> do what They have commanded us to do). If people who claim to be
> Christianswould get their act together, this world would really be
> a much nicer place.
>
> I mean, really, what corporation would keep anyone as an employee who
> refused to read the policies and procedures, refused to follow
> them, decided
> they didn't exist (or didn't mean what they said...they have their own
> interpretation), didn't even think the CEO was who He said He
> was, didn't
> believe He made His Son the COO, but decided that they would
> determine who
> they would work for? How long would you keep your employment, let
> alonequalify for any employee perks? Not long. You would not be
> able to
> accurately call yourself an employee.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2004 4:14 pm
> Subject: Re: Ghanaians want Kerry In White House
>
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> > We're not talking about consideration of people's opinions here.
> > The article's intent is to support people who plan to vote for
> > Kerry by stating that since majorities in 30 of 35 countries want
> > him as president, then he must be the better candidate and he will
> > naturally have a much more effective foreign policy (because the
> > majority disagree with Bush's foreign policy). That goes beyond
> > opinion. Stable and nice governments don't happen by accident.
> > They exist because of hard work and "on purpose" decisions made
> > by the people of the country, year after year, election by
> > election, win or lose. The reason I brought it up, well, would
> > you consider the advice of an accountant with an unbalanced
> checkbook?>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Aggo Akyea <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2004 3:51 pm
> > Subject: Re: Ghanaians want Kerry In White House
> >
> > > What has having a "stable" and "NICE" government got to do with
> > > the peoples' opinion to have John Kerry as president. Of course
> > > they can't vote here, we all know that.
> > >
> > > Are people in unstable and "ugly looking" governments, not human
> > > enough to just want one thing over the other?
> > >
> > > I think we are all becoming too arrogant and feeling too special
> > > as God's gift to man/woman-kind. Other human beings live on this
> > > earth too and have all the rights and deserve to be considered
> > > decently.
> > > I thought that is what the good book teaches those of us who claim
> > > to be born again.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> > > I know I'm going to regret this...but, here goes.
> > >
> > > How many of these countries have nice, stable governments? Of the
> > > stable ones, how many have had the same constitution (with only
> > > amendments added) for over 100 years?
> > > My point is...you're going to trust their judgement?
> > >
> > > PS...children love permissive parents that let them do what they
> > > want, whenever they want. The world wants an isolationist US
> > > president who won't interfere or attempt to stop whatever they
> > > want to do to someone else.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Joe Brewoo
> > > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2004 3:09 pm
> > > Subject: Ghanaians want Kerry In White House
> > >
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> > > > www.ghanaweb.com: General News of Wednesday, 08 September 2004
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ghanaians want Kerry In White House
> > > >
> > > > ...Global Survey Shows 30 Of 35 Countries Want Kerry
> > > > WASHINGTON, Sept 8 (AFP) - A majority of people in 30 of 35
> > > > countries want
> > > > Democratic party flagbearer John Kerry in the White House,
> > > > according to a
> > > > survey released Wednesday showing US President George W. Bush
> > > > rebuffed by
> > > > all of America's traditional allies.
> > > >
> > > > On average, Senator Kerry was favored by more than a two-to-one
> > > > margin -- 46
> > > > percent to 20 percent, the survey by GlobeScan Inc, a global
> > > > research firm,
> > > > and the local University of Maryland, showed.
> > > >
> > > > "Only one in five want to see Bush reelected," said Steven
> > Kull, the
> > > > university's program on international policy attitudes.
> > "Though he
> > > > is not as
> > > > well known, Kerry would win handily if the people of the world
> > > > were to elect
> > > > the US president."
> > > >
> > > > The only countries where Bush was preferred in the poll
> > covering a
> > > > total of
> > > > 34,330 people and conducted in July and August were the
> > > > Philippines, Nigeria
> > > > and Poland.
> > > >
> > > > India and Thailand were divided.
> > > >
> > > > The margin of error in the survey covering all regions of the
> > > > world ranged
> > > > from plus or minus 2.3 to five percent.
> > > >
> > > > Kerry was strongly preferred among all of America's traditional
> > > > allies,including Norway (74 percent compared with Bush's seven
> > > > percent), Germany
> > > > (74 percent to 10 percent), France (64 percent to five
> > percent), the
> > > > Netherlands (63 percent to six percent), Italy (58 percent
> to 14
> > > > percent)and Spain (45 percent to seven percent).
> > > >
> > > > Even in Britain, where Prime Minister Tony Blair is Bush's
> closest> > > ally in
> > > > the war on terror, Kerry trounced the incumbent 47 percent
> to 16
> > > > percent.
> > > > Kerry was also greatly favored among Canadians by 61 percent to
> > > > Bush's 16
> > > > percent and among the Japanese by 43 percent to 23 percent.
> > > >
> > > > Even among countries that have contributed troops to Iraq, most
> > > > favoredKerry, and said that their view of US foreign policy has
> > > > gotten worse under
> > > > Bush.
> > > >
> > > > They included Britain, the Czech Republic, Italy, the
> > > Netherlands, the
> > > > Dominican Republic, Thailand, Kazakhstan, Japan, Norway and
> Spain.> > >
> > > > Asked how President Bush's foreign policy had affected their
> > > feelings> towards the United States, a majority of those polled
> > in 31
> > > > countries said
> > > > it made them feel "worse" about America, while those in only
> three> > > countriessaid it had made them feel "better."
> > > >
> > > > "Perhaps most sobering for Americans is the strength of the view
> > > > that US
> > > > foreign policy is on the wrong track, even in countries
> > > > contributing troops
> > > > in Iraq," said GlobeScan President Doug Miller.
> > > >
> > > > In Europe, the exception for Bush was a new ally, Polland, where
> > > > he was
> > > > preferred by a narrow majority of 31 percent against Kerry's 26
> > > > percent.
> > > > Another new European ally, the Czech Republic, however went for
> > > > Kerry (42
> > > > percent to Bush's 18 percent) as did Sweden (58 percent to 10
> > > > percent).
> > > > Asia was the most mixed region, though Kerry still did better.
> > > > Aside from
> > > > enjoying a large margin in Japan, he was preferred by clear
> > > > majorities in
> > > > China (52 percent to Bush's 12 percent) and Indonesia (57
> percent> > > to 34
> > > > percent).
> > > >
> > > > But those polled were divided in India (Kerry 34 percent,
> Bush 33
> > > > percent)and Thailand (Kerry 30 percent, Bush 33 percent).
> > > >
> > > > Latin Americans went for Kerry in all nine countries polled. In
> > > > only two
> > > > cases did Kerry win by a large majority -- Brazil (57
> percent to
> > > > 14 percent)
> > > > and the Dominican Republic (51 percent to 38 percent) -- but in
> > > > most cases
> > > > the spread was quite wide.
> > > >
> > > > Bush was preferred in Nigeria with 33 percent as compared to
> > > > Kerry's 27
> > > > percent but the Democratic candidate was favored in five other
> > > African> states polled -- Kenya (58 percent to 25 percent),
> > Ghana (48
> > > > percent to 24
> > > > percent), Tanzania (44 percent to 30 percent), South Africa (43
> > > > percent to
> > > > 29 percent) and Zimbabwe (28 percent to six percent).
> > > >
> > > > Strongest negative views on US foreign policy were held in
> > > > Germany, with 83
> > > > percent of those polled saying "worse" followed by France (81
> > > > percent),Mexico (78 percent), China (72 percent), Canada (71
> > > > percent), Netherlands (
> > > > 71 percent), Spain (67 percent), Brazil (66 percent), Italy (66
> > > > percent),Argentina (65 percent) and Britain (64 percent).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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