Ken,
You are the sweetest and most caring individual on this list. I
think most lists have a silent majority and vocal minority. I was just
curious as there was only one reply. I thank you for thinking of me and
remembering the stamps. I dediced to collect the state quarters - so I guess
I can say I collect coins now also. GRIN
Trisha
> for the 304 people who are on the list and do not comment, who can
> push
> their reply button? i am sure i am one of the 25 that is heard from. i am
> the only person who clicks my reply key. i can't help it if 279 do not
> comment. bobby can not make the other 279 people reply, kyle and deri
> can't
> do a mass reply button on everyones computer. i do not know how many could
> have replied to your post. those that could, i do not know why they chose
> not to. i do not know if it is "don't know, don't care, or what."
> i normally read your post several times thinking about wherther or not
> i
> can constuctivly reply. i have became involed enough to send gifts to cp
> children of some of the parents on this last. i have cared enough to send
> gifts to others that expressed that the wasnted something and i just
> happened to be able to aquire. you mentioned that you liked stamps one
> time
> when i mentioned that i collected coins, i have never sent you a stamp
> but,
> truefully i have saw stamps for sale and wondered if they would fit in
> your
> interest. i do care. i do not take anybody on this list lightly.
> now, don't all you others on the list start sending me mail telling me
> what you want for your gift just because i have said this. :-}
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: current events
>
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> I know you weren't ignoring me, and I know that not everyone will have
> a
> comment all the time. One kind of assumes tho someone must have an car
> that's adapted and have experiences to share. No, You, Bobby and Kyle are
> higher functioning than Amber in that respect - but you may know someone.
> There maybe 304 people on the list but the same say 25 are usually the
> ones
> heard from - I don't response ro jokes - for the same reason you don't
> responde to stuff you have no answer for - altho many times like the car
> question they become offshoot topics you do know something about.
>
> Trisha
>
>
> > you know, trisha, i read your request for info on adapting a car for cp.
> i
> > do not know about bobby and kyle, but, i have never had to adapt a car
> for
> > cp. i actually learned to drive a straight shift car with not even a
> knob
> > on
> > the steering wheel. should i comment on something that i know nothing
> > about? there are questions that do come up that i do not attempt to
> reply
> > to, because i have no experience at all to constuctivly reply. i assume
> > when
> > those questions come up that those who know how to answer, will. would
> you
> > prefer that each and every one of us that don't have an answer, post a
> > message that says. "gee, i don't know how to reply to that?" we could
> have
> > hundreds of messages saying basically. "i don't know."
> > i guess the person would at least know that a hundred of us do not know,
> > but
> > then again, i would assume that someone who has been on the list for a
> > length of time would know that we do not try to fake an answer if we do
> > not
> > have one. you got an answer from one person who knew how to answer from
> > deri. i would think that was better than serveral from kyle, bobby, and
> i
> > saying "gee, trisha, i'm sorry, i do not know."
> > i will comment on one thing i can comment on, imho you can adapt a
> used
> > car as cheaply as you can a new one. so a parent with a tight budget
> does
> > not have to buy a teen a new car. it is not wrong to do that, but, it is
> > not
> > a "have to."
> > it is not even a "have to" for a teen to have a license to drive only
> > because the reach the age that one is lawfully allowed for. sara got her
> > license at 18. she was not ready at 16. benjamin will have to mature
> > hugely
> > in the next few months or he will not be ready to hold the weapon that
> is
> > an
> > automobile in his hands.
> > not good english, but, i am not ignoring you.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:54 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: current events
> >
> >
> > Hi Kat,
> >
> > I don't have problem with it either as long as
> > its
> > not to the exclusion of others things. And off topic discussions are
> fine
> > -
> > the problem is when we don't discuss the CP stuff enough - I was talking
> > about needing to adapt the car for Amber - only Deri actaully me
> anything
> > useful and the rest was all "car" talk. I have in the past seen where
> > people
> > have said - I hate to break in the all social stuff but I have serious
> > question. The person who left - did stick around for while and a
> > discussion
> > we had on the list let them know the questions wouldn't be welcome -
> even
> > tho the population and the question where relavant. People should be
> > comforatble doing both and not feel their questions are an imposition. I
> > never saw where my adding informational topics on anything including
> > parenting was any harm. Somewhere along the line - I got the mistaken
> idea
> > that C-Palsy was hosted by St John's as a serious list to help people
> with
> > problems and research have a forum where they could go , and not a chat
> > group like you have on Yahoo.
> >
> >
> > Trisha
> >
> >
> > > I have no problem with Kyle, Bobby, and Ken doing their thing, it
> > provides
> > > me with a lot of amusement, and frankly, I think it's cool. Sorry if
> > you
> > > don't like it, but I'm glad we allow off-topic discussions here. It'd
> > be
> > > awfully dull if we didn't. And if that person had stuck around he or
> > she
> > > would have discovered we do talk about CP. They didn't give us a
> > chance,
> > > that's all.
> > >
> > > As for religion, I'm not crazy about paganism or fundamentalism.
> > However
> > > I'm willing to learn as long as I'm not preached to.
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:21:00 -0400 Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Deri,
> > >
> > > You have such a way with words!! I love it.
> > >
> > > > You're on a lot firmer ground here, questioning both my intelligence
> > > > and my sanity, has got to be a win/win everytime. ;-)
> > > >
> > > I think your sanity if fine - I think maybe its benchmark for
> > > what
> > > sanity should be!! Can you loan me some? LOL
> > >
> > > > Still I do find it a little worrisome that your admitted intention
> was
> > > > to blacken someone's name privately, off list.
> > > >
> > > Well, as I said I thought I was only talking Kyle. If the
> truth
> > > blackens someone - maybe they should watch their actions. It would be
> > one
> > > thing if I were lying trying to make trouble. But I speak the truth.
> You
> > > can
> > > go back thru the e-mails - and see what she has said about her friends
> > and
> > > family and forcing her to do things and how she drops them. Mind you I
> > am
> > > one of those people who "forced" her to do things. The whole way we
> met
> > > was
> > > over her interest in Paganism and then she has the gall to say I
> forced
> > > her..... NOT. I was glad she had her church and church friends and got
> > out
> > > of the house. While I have little patience with fundemetalism, I have
> > no
> > > problem with religions in general. She was the first person to jump on
> > the
> > > bandwagon agianst Christians when we got to together..... just as she
> > > jumps
> > > on the bandwagon against "TABS"....I am sorry if the truth is ugly.
> > >
> > > I upset people becasue they take my devil advocate position
> as
> > a
> > > serious put down to them rather than a simple example of things from a
> > > different perspective. Just like Kyle got upset about the finanacial
> way
> > I
> > > showed child support. It wasn't against him - it was another to look
> at
> > > it.
> > > People tend to think if you aren't with them you are against when you
> > may
> > > truly not give damn one way or the other. Someone decided after I
> wrote
> > > something I wasn't sympathic to disabled folks why becasue I put out a
> > > different view. Which amuses me - I have a disabled child, disabled
> > boss,
> > > disabled students, disabled friends, other disabled family and
> disabled
> > > customers as well being disabled myself. I am one who caught herself
> > > wondering what was wrong with that child becasue it was normal.
> > >
> > > I have full sympathy for people but I do have a pet peeve
> about
> > > whining about it. I do remember way back - someone else asking someone
> > if
> > > they wanted a little cheese with their whine. This list is a click and
> > > mostly its the Kyle, Ken and Bobby hour - some one off list told me
> this
> > > was
> > > the most content free list they had ever seen, and they went away
> > without
> > > ever asking for help with the problem they had, since they had CP and
> > came
> > > here for help with a CP related problem - I am afraid that their
> leaving
> > > says something about the value of the list and your ability to make
> > people
> > > feel excluded becasue they don't fit in your groupthink mode.
> > >
> > > How much flack did I get after someone new with a baby ask
> what
> > is
> > > CP and I made a educational note about with links. How about the
> > > mentioning
> > > the parenting and people got miffed - so .... CP people don't have
> kids
> > > ....
> > > don't needs hints on parenting....... Jennifer of the new baby may
> > > disagree.
> > > I was amused when someone told me - finally the list was showing some
> > > promise of what a great resource it could be. Basically what you have
> > here
> > > is a homogenous chat group and you police it to make sure it satys
> that
> > > way.
> > > You worry about society sticking you in a cocoon becasue you are
> > disabled
> > > -
> > > yet you place yourself in a nice safe cocoon on the list, lets not
> talk
> > > about contraversal stuff - but you know - disbility is an equal
> > oppurunity
> > > enitity so all intelligence levels, religions, social strata's, and
> > > physical
> > > abilities are represented as well as a million opinions and view
> points.
> > >
> > > I need to have access to a varity of information for Amber and
> > my
> > > students. I also know and acknowlegde that just becasue someone is
> > > disabled
> > > doesn't mean they walk on water - last summer my Access class had 3
> > > disabled
> > > students, the most severely affected one worked harder than the one
> with
> > a
> > > only a vision problem - who spend all his time not coming to class and
> > > leaving the responisibility of his work on all of us making an
> exception
> > > for
> > > him. okay end of lengthy typying session - and I hate typing!!!.
> > >
> > > Trisha
> > >
> > > > You're on a lot firmer ground here, questioning both my intelligence
> > > > and my sanity, has got to be a win/win everytime. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Still I do find it a little worrisome that your admitted intention
> was
> > > > to blacken someone's name privately, off list.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Deri (not black, just a v. dark charcoal) :-)
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 03 Jun 2002 9:52 pm, Trisha Cummings wrote:
> > > > > Deri,
> > > > >
> > > > > As I said, I thought that was only going to Kyle. Otherwise I
> > > > > wouldn't have mentioned Betty. And frankly, I don't have blacken
> > > > > her name - simple because one is popluar doesn't mean one can't be
> > > > > underhanded and two faced - in fact if you look at politicans you
> > > > > will realize its the satus quo. She certainly can be charming -
> and
> > > > > fun - I just don't want to ever trust her again or be her friend -
> > > > > you guys go right ahead. Its easy to be a bs'er via the computer
> > > > > you never have face anyone - its tougher face to face. Besides all
> > > > > her rants about people forcing her to do things and her dropping
> > > > > the people are on the list - you guys should be bright enough to
> > > > > put 2 and 2 together - no one has everyone in their life being a
> > > > > total shit. And if they do maybe they need to look at themselves.
> > > > >
> > > > > Trisha
> > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think many people are going to be convinced by your
> > > > > > repeated attempts (this is the second I've seen) to blacken the
> > > > > > name of someone as popular on the list as Betty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do agree about people not being black & white, its just the
> hue
> > > > > > of grey which is so variable. ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Deri
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