You can only know pain if you've felt pain. I was going to send this link
to Jenn, but it seems to apply here too:
The gentleman on this RealAudio clip lives with intractible pain, and speaks
of only being able to relate to others who have chronic pain. I think the
same can be said for the mental illnesses as well.
Jenn Zubko, this is for you, hon:
http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/atc/20020313.atc.14.ram
-Kyle
-----Original Message-----
From: Yvonne Craig [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:39 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Yates' case
As a mental health professional, I was shocked by what I have heard about =
the whole case. I have heard she was suffering from post-partum depression =
and other reports that she has schizophrenia (two vastly different =
diagnoses with different treatments but with some common features) - I =
don't know which is true. I also heard that on the advice of her doctor =
her meds were stopped. If she was psychotic from either of those conditions=
and unmedicated, I cannot imagine how she was found guilty. There seems =
to be this misconception that a psychotic person is automatically =
disorganized and therefore would be unable to "methodically" carry out the =
killings. This is just not true. This is a horrific tragedy and I feel for =
the children and the family, but if she was psychotic at the time, she =
should not be held responsible for her actions legally. Her doctor should =
be held criminally responsible for not providing appropriate treatment and =
follow-up. Thank God she didn't receive the death penalty!=20
The way I see it, she was convicted based on misconceptions and biases =
against those disabled by mental illness. JMHO.
Yvonne
>>> Salkin Kathleen <[log in to unmask]> 03/17/02 10:38AM >>>
Sorry t0 bring back a painful topic (which was discussed a few months =
ago).
As I read about the testimonies of the doctors and families in the Andrea
Yates case, I was wondering who was worrying about the kids during all =
this?
I wasn't too surprised at the guilty verdict, and even agreed with the =
life
imprisonment sentence, but I surely do hope someone in Texas starts an
inquiry into the professionalism of the psychiatrists involved in Yates'
case. Yes, I do think she is guilty, but I also think her doctors and =
family
were negligent in not considering her kids or trying to protect them.
Perhaps I'm being too harsh, I don't know. The senseless deaths of the
children have tended to do that to me.
Kat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Betty B" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Ill, Ariz Towns Seek Accessibility
> In a message dated 3/17/2002 7:39:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> > Adults can be vocal for themselves and are
> > many more in number than these smallest ones of
> > humanity who has no voice but ours.
> > Joanne
> >
>
> This is a topic of potentially protracted discussion for me. Suffice it
to
> say that you're words aren't wasted on me and I am in your camp.
> Betty
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