> Teresa Barnes <[log in to unmask]>
> I don't know if there's any connection between the two, but
> does Armour thyroid case heart "flutters"?
Strayze <[log in to unmask]> responded
>You need to get a full check of your thyroid function immediately. Your
f>lutters can definitely be a sign of thyrotoxicity. Do not wait till the
>next appointment.
You know it's incredible that responder Strayze could get enough thyroid
medicine to be thyrotoxic (which in her case I think happened when she lost
some weight and the doctor wasn't too responsive.) Don't forget with Strayze
says because it is true too much thyroid can do very bad things to you.
(I've been up to 10 grains of Armour, my wife 18, my children's dosage range
from 2 1/2 grains to 6 more than most adults and I haven't seen anything bad
yet. If we increase the pulse rate ever goes over 100 we cut back. If we
just increased and pulse and blood pressure go up as long as not dangerous
levels we give a few weeks and if they don't go back for the pulse at least
to the low 90s we decrease, but the problem of most of us is getting enough
prescribed.)
Beyond the fact too much can do your heart damage, you must also consider
that it may feel this way because it's pumping harder, has more strength and
is now more noticeable. I'm assuming you went on Armour Thyroid slowly, and
didn't go on 3 grains all at once. For heart problems or high cholesterol it
is imperative that you go up slowly, very slowly. Your average doctor will
hear your health isn't perfect and blame it on too much thyroid medicine and
take you off. The average doctor won't have a clue whether it's too much
thyroid or something else causing the problem
Furthermore, I think Strayze has said the TSH tests worked pretty well for
her, except when she was on other medications that interfered with T4 to T3
conversion, but none of the tests work out very well for most hypothyroid
people. They are pretty much worthless.
I may be wrong, so you'll have to think about my opinion and then ask someone
more knowledgeable (someone like Doc Don, yes, someone like average doctor
they just think they know more.) However, I would presume that if heart
flutters but pulse is in the 80s it's not caused by the thyroid meds. If
your heart rate is normally in the 90s without Armour and it's still in the
90s, it's probably not caused by Armour.
Other question of course, if you are on certain medication that cause the
heart to flutter plus Armour, you may notice now the effect of that medicine.
Claritin, for sure, causes heart palpitations and other heart problems. I
think all of the allergy medicines that end in -D do so. Probably other
medicines too but I don't know which ones. Whereas most doctors don't think
of taking you off claritin for heart palpitations, they think any thyroid is
bad for the heart and are much more cautious with it. Same with Fen-phen,
doctors offered my wife that heart valve problem drug to my wife who already
had been diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse, and wanted to throw the
Fen-phen on top of that without asking her if she ate to much, how her heart
was or even doing a single thyroid or other lab test. I don't hear much
about this, but someone on Fen-phen told me before the heart warnings came
out that she had been warned by the doctor that it can do damage to the
brain. Yet, to doctors only thyroid is evil.
Skipper Beers
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