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I>  Maggi Martin <[log in to unmask]>

 > I have itched myself to bleeding and
I know how that feels.  Before my thyroid was increased Claritin helped. Now
I don't need it.  Also, my hands don't bleed and crack in the winter time.
And I don't feel like I have fleas anymore and if only I could see them I
could tell a doctor and find a way to get rid of them.  My Uncle thinks he
has parasites when he talks about itching that's what he mentions.  For
itching, I only had to take Claritin a day or two and could then stop and it
would stay away a few weeks.  Bad thing about the Claritin was the excessive
dry mouth it caused.  Not only does it make it hard to talk but causes
cavities.  As all the allergy medicines seems to do, it also causes irregular
heartbeat.  And they think it's safe for the heart but thyroid isn't!
Claritn came on the market around the time Seldane did but that was removed
for killing too many people.  Especially if they took their meds with
grapefruit juice.  Claritin probably kills, too just not as obvious.  Since
my wife had allergies, most from low thyroid, and then started taking allergy
pills before developing asthma, I wonder if they are one cause of asthma.  IF
so that's the death link because asthma can kill, or the inhalers you need to
take to live can cause a sudden heart attack. If not, I believe the irregular
heartbeat or heart palpitation are listed in the drug literature, and
probably does kill people from time to time particularly people who already
have weak hearts which is commonly true of us with low thyroids.

 > After several years of virtually
> zero  sleep, Or nothing but sleeping,
In the event zero sleep occurred during hypothyroid periods, low thyroid
causes low estrogen which causes women who don't know what hour to go to bed.
 Doc Don treats many female patients with hormone replacement therapy in
addition to thyroid hormone.  My wife always came to bed around 4:00 and got
up at 8:00, if she tried to come to bed earlier she wasn't exhausted enough
to fall asleep and would just lie there awake.  It's why when I was
hypothyroid I would be sleeping in my chair while she would be sitting on her
couch, I would think her lazy for not getting up and doing things because she
couldn't have the same problems as  me and she certainly wasn't tired if she
was awake all the time and couldn't nap.  Well, I was wrong. It must be
terrible to be a woman with low estrogen and low thyroid because you are
there awake, wouldn't think of napping and yet the hypothyroid makes you
totally exhausted.

>Free T3 was way too high and Free T4 was below normal.

If a doctor wants to run a  thyroid test on me I don't want him to treat me.
They don't know how to interpret those numbers anyway.  Of course taking
Armour or a T3 medicine causes your free T3 to be elevated.  Free T3 means
nothing, only what the cell uses which they can't really measure.  When
taking T3, yes T4 is generally lower in proportion to T3.  So, what?  We
don't care how our labs feel only our health.

As for labs, it may not be a bad sign if a doctor uses them.  Doc Don takes
5-7 vials of blood from new patients. I suspect they tell him something about
how to treat you.  But when I want a treatment and most doctors say the lab
says you're normal, I cringe.

Fortunately my family doctor isn't that way and neither is Doc Don.

> finally broke down and started on 0.5mg of
 >xanax.

Isn't this an antidepressant?  I don't know if most antidepressant mechanisms
are the same but I ran across a site talking about Prosaic.  Seems like one
thing it does is to raise the cortisol levels.  You know that Prednisone or
Cortef that you might need if your adrenals are low but getting from your
doctor is like trying to pull out his teeth with your bare hands?  Well the
side effects listed for those are the same as if you had high cortisol.  Only
low cortisol people taking the meds do not get high cortisol unless the dose
is too high, but someone with normal cortisol having it increased may very
well give you high cortisol and the symptoms which include weight gain,
buffalo hump on your back, osteoporosis and others.  Furthermore, if cortisol
does elevate than you have a problem converting T4 to T3.  You know Gail
Kahn's and others have told us many times that Prednisone or Cortef will
decrease your TSH level and doctors don't know this but I think it's in the
drug literature.  So, I don't know if Xanadu has the same mechanism for
creating high cortisol which Prosaic has, but I do know at least one website
I ran across called it a major health risk.  It's not in any other side
effects I could find so it may be that information is hard to come across and
even if Xanadu does this you may not be able to find out.

Skipper Beers



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