> Rhodes, Anne Marie SBCCOM" <[log in to unmask] writes
>
> Did you call Doc Don? I am going to make another appointment with my
doctor
> again, he is a pretty good doctor otherwise and see what they have to say
> about all my symptoms.
Most doctors don't know the symptoms and if your labs are normal do not
care. My wife and son see Doc Don for thyroid, I went to him once, I thought
for ADD, because I do have a doctor who will actually give me enough medicine
to be better, but Doc Don did practice psychiatry (and also neurology) and I
went because I suspected ADD. He said no, just residual effects of
hypothyroidism that take a long time to go away as Langer (I think) said in
his book, but he also said Dexedrine, an ADD med would help greatly and it
has. I hate taking any drog, and wouldn't even complete a course of
antibiotics, I quit when I got better, but then I went on thyroid and wheras
I am a lot better on it, the Dexedreine does give me focus and if one doesn't
produce enough work whether it's caused by laziness or a medical condition
they eventually become homeless.
So your whole family has been hit with this
> thyroid problem. I know my grandmother has had an operation for her
thyroid
> and takes Synthroid too. But other than that, I don't know of anyone else
in
> the family with the same problem.
And if I hadn't been a member of this list, I wouldn't know that the
condition is what killed my mother. Congestive heart failure may be stated
on her death ceriticate but the cause was really 15 years of thyroid symptoms
that docs don't recognize without elevated TSH. They know the symptoms all
right, every doctor my wife went to tested her thyroid when she gave her
symptoms and they were pretty sure that was it.But then it came back
"normal": If you know math, believe it or not, that's the classic defintion
of normal for a normal curve. It means if you fill a room with 100 people 2
(actually 2 1/4 but that's not possible) would have abnormally high TSh
indicating hypothyoidism and 2 people would have low TSh indicating
hyperthyroidism, and the other 96 people would be perfectly normal. Did
anyone ask those "normal" people if they had any health problems? No, and
why not? Because they are "normal" and that equals "well." I don't know
what they teach doctors, but Doc Don was enlightened as to why his depressed
patients were getting better on Armour if their labs were normal to begin
with and I called the president of my local lab and ran this by him, he
agreed and he said, "yes, "normal" is a staticstcal definition meaning 2
standard deviations from the mear, IT IS NOT A WELL / SICK CUTOFF." I knew
my wife was hypo, before I suspected I had it, I had suspected narcolepsy for
myself for many years, but Doc Don says the self-critical function is the
first to go, I had no idea how bad I was until my TSH finally rose to allow
your average doctor to diagnose my condition. Gee, and I thought once they
knew my disease that doctors are such smart people I would never have a
thyroid related problem again. Now people say I think everything is caused
by thyroid. That's because if you have a multitude of health problems the
lack of energy can cause almost any ill health problem known to man. I now
know the beginning of good health is knowing that if you have a health
problem you have to learn more about it than your doctor because he may not
be too bright, and if he is that may be worse because hypothyroiid patients
are a gold mine for the medical profession and someone out there knows and
wants that money to keep coming in, some of those people out there who know
are MDs, someone is intentionally not educating doctors about all the
symptoms,and they are telling them you better not give them Armour Thyroid
because it will cause a heart attack, if you do give it to them you just give
them a tiny bit because if they think they are being treated they may go home
and sit on their coach and just say, "well it can't be my thyroid, my doctor
is treating that already, must be something else. My doctor did his best I
asked for Armour, and he gave me an entire 1/2 grain." And if a patient
mentions the name Wilson in relation to thyroid, they're not talking about
the disease that has to do with copper, but the ability to actually cure
someone so they may not need any meds at all, not even Armour, Someone's
telling those doctors to either look at you like maybe they should commit you
to a mental hospital or be sure to tell you that the treatment will cause you
to have a heart attack if you ever even start to think about the treatment
like happened to one of Wilson's patients who died and the family sued. Yes,
they say, he must have caused her death by giving her T3, T3 is evil (that
is, it will cut into the generation of income for doctors and pharmacists and
hospitals and nurses, and drug companies) Those people who suffer for 15
years with symptoms that doctors know are hypothyroidism, and used to treat
with Armour in the 1950's and 60's, those people who die after those years of
suffering and couldn't possibly be hypothyroid because their TSh isn't
elevated, when they die those long cruel deaths that can't in any conceivable
way be the fault of the medical community.
> I do notice too that I get severe foot pains, but I just thought that I
> probably have spurs since that seems to be common. The pain is mostly
> around my heals. See, I didn't even know that all the joint pains and
stuff
> could be from the thyroid problem. This is all new info to me.
Yes, and I was naive the first time I went to my podiatrist back three years
before I ever had a thyroid problem. He said plantar fascitis normally
occurrs shortly after someone suddenly (did you see the word suddenly) gains
20 or more pounds. Anyone know of a person who gained 20 pounds in a month
with no change in diet or exercise habbits that wasn't hypothyroid? I doubt
it. Oh, now he says there's an epidemic of plantar fascitis in Battle Creek.
My translation, "there's an epidemic of thyroid problems that doctors are
ignoring. Yes, 3 years after my first visit to my podiatrist I got something
that worked better than those painful cortisone shots, Armour Thyroid Note
the work Armour I queried this list when I figured out in the fall of 2000
why my pain, but not the spurs, disappeared in 1998 when I started Armour. It
took me that long to get the association, I have a thyroid problem not a foot
problem, Two people wrote to me they shared my experience and they were cured
when they switched from Synthroid to Armour.
In regard to bone spurs, my podiatrist explained it to me this way. One
gains weight, this puts stress on the long tendon that runs the lenght of the
foot on the bottom. This stress makes the tendon inflamed, the tendon starts
pulling on the heel where it's connected and starts making the bone spur.
You were right it is a common condition, a percentage of the time caused by
low thyroid. I don't know whether that percentage is 2 % of the time or 98%
of the time, but I'm betting it's a lot closer to the 98 and may even be real
close. Now I may be wrong because my podiatrist recognized when I told him
it went away on Armour that implied nerve problems, which thyroid is well
known for causing. I don't know if cortisone shots work for very many
people, it's standard treatment for it, so if I didn't think the medical
profession had either morons or people who were profit oriented to the point
of not caring if people suffer as long as they make money, and admittedly the
only time the cortisone shot ever really seemed to help was when I thought he
hit a nerve. Perhaps he did and since it was a nerve problem, it actually
number the right spot. Maybe, but only maybe, for anyone with plantar
fascitis if they feel significantly better after a shot it's really not a
thyroid problem. I don't believe that but I recognize I do not know
everything and many things I don't believe are in fact possibilities.
Skipper Beers
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