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"Barber, Kenneth L." <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
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Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:30:23 -0400
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which ones are you missing, if any? do you cxollect just one example of each
state or do you collect one from both the philadelphia mint and the denver
mint? you got any holes in your collection, i can probably help you with
them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:23 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: current events


Ken,

           You are the sweetest and most caring individual on this list. I
think most lists have a silent majority and vocal minority. I was just
curious as there was only one reply. I thank you for thinking of me and
remembering the stamps. I dediced to collect the state quarters - so I guess
I can say I collect coins now also. GRIN

                                         Trisha



>    for the 304 people who are  on the list and do not comment, who can
> push
> their reply button? i am sure i am one of the 25 that is heard from. i am
> the only person who clicks my reply key. i can't help it if 279 do not
> comment. bobby can not make the other 279 people reply, kyle and deri
> can't
> do a mass reply button on everyones computer. i do not know how many could
> have replied to your post. those that could, i do not know why they chose
> not to. i do not know if it is "don't know, don't care, or what."
>    i normally read your post several times thinking about wherther or not
> i
> can constuctivly reply. i have became involed enough to send gifts to cp
> children of some of the parents on this last. i have cared enough to send
> gifts to others that expressed that the wasnted something and i just
> happened to be able to aquire. you mentioned that you liked stamps one
> time
> when i mentioned that i collected coins, i have never sent you a stamp
> but,
> truefully i have saw stamps for sale and wondered if they would fit in
> your
> interest. i do care. i do not take anybody on this list lightly.
>    now, don't all you others on the list start sending me mail telling me
> what you want for your gift just because i have said this. :-}
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: current events
>
>
> Hi Ken,
>
>    I know you weren't ignoring me, and I know that not everyone will have
> a
> comment all the time. One kind of assumes tho someone must have an car
> that's adapted and have experiences to share. No, You, Bobby and Kyle are
> higher functioning than Amber in that respect - but you may know someone.
> There maybe 304 people on the list but the same say 25 are usually the
> ones
> heard from - I don't response ro jokes - for the same reason you don't
> responde to stuff you have no answer for - altho many times like the car
> question they become offshoot topics you do know something about.
>
>                                     Trisha
>
>
> > you know, trisha, i read your request for info on adapting a car for cp.
> i
> > do not know about bobby and kyle, but, i have never had to adapt a car
> for
> > cp. i actually learned to drive a straight shift car with not even a
> knob
> > on
> > the steering wheel.  should i comment on something that i know nothing
> > about? there are questions that do come up that i do not attempt to
> reply
> > to, because i have no experience at all to constuctivly reply. i assume
> > when
> > those questions come up that those who know how to answer, will. would
> you
> > prefer that each and every one of us that don't have an answer, post a
> > message that says. "gee, i don't know how to reply to that?" we could
> have
> > hundreds of messages saying basically. "i don't know."
> > i guess the person would at least know that a hundred of us do not know,
> > but
> > then again, i would assume that someone who has been on the list for a
> > length of time would know that we do not try to fake an answer if we do
> > not
> > have one. you got an answer from one person who knew how to answer from
> > deri. i would think that was better than serveral from kyle, bobby, and
> i
> > saying "gee, trisha, i'm sorry, i do not know."
> >   i will comment on one thing i can comment on, imho you can adapt a
> used
> > car as cheaply as you can a new one. so a parent with a tight budget
> does
> > not have to buy a teen a new car. it is not wrong to do that, but, it is
> > not
> > a "have to."
> > it is not even a "have to" for a teen to have a license to drive only
> > because the reach the age that one is lawfully allowed for. sara got her
> > license at 18. she was not ready at 16. benjamin will have to mature
> > hugely
> > in the next few months or he will not be ready to hold the weapon that
> is
> > an
> > automobile in his hands.
> > not good english, but, i am not ignoring you.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:54 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: current events
> >
> >
> > Hi Kat,
> >
> >                          I don't have problem with it either as long as
> > its
> > not to the exclusion of others things. And off topic discussions are
> fine
> > -
> > the problem is when we don't discuss the CP stuff enough - I was talking
> > about needing to adapt the car for Amber  - only Deri actaully me
> anything
> > useful and the rest was all "car" talk. I have in the past seen where
> > people
> > have said - I hate to break in the all social stuff but I have serious
> > question. The person who left - did stick around for while and a
> > discussion
> > we had on the list let them know the questions wouldn't be welcome -
> even
> > tho the population and the question where relavant. People should be
> > comforatble doing both and not feel their questions are an imposition. I
> > never saw where my adding informational topics on anything including
> > parenting was any harm. Somewhere along the line - I got the mistaken
> idea
> > that C-Palsy was hosted by St John's as a serious list to help people
> with
> > problems and research have a forum where they could go , and not a chat
> > group like you have on Yahoo.
> >
> >
> > Trisha
> >
> >
> > > I have no problem with Kyle, Bobby, and Ken doing their thing, it
> > provides
> > > me with a lot of amusement, and frankly, I think it's cool.  Sorry if
> > you
> > > don't like it, but I'm glad we allow off-topic discussions here.  It'd
> > be
> > > awfully dull if we didn't.  And if that person had stuck around he or
> > she
> > > would have discovered we do talk about CP.  They didn't give us a
> > chance,
> > > that's all.
> > >
> > > As for religion, I'm not crazy about paganism or fundamentalism.
> > However
> > > I'm willing to learn as long as I'm not preached to.
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:21:00 -0400 Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Deri,
> > >
> > >        You have such a way with words!! I love it.
> > >
> > > > You're on a lot firmer ground here, questioning both my intelligence
> > > > and my sanity, has got to be a win/win everytime. ;-)
> > > >
> > >          I think your sanity if fine - I think maybe its benchmark for
> > > what
> > > sanity should be!! Can you loan me some? LOL
> > >
> > > > Still I do find it a little worrisome that your admitted intention
> was
> > > > to blacken someone's name privately, off list.
> > > >
> > >         Well, as I said I thought I was only talking Kyle.  If the
> truth
> > > blackens someone - maybe they should watch their actions. It would be
> > one
> > > thing if I were lying trying to make trouble. But I speak the truth.
> You
> > > can
> > > go back thru the e-mails - and see what she has said about her friends
> > and
> > > family and forcing her to do things and how she drops them. Mind you I
> > am
> > > one of those people who "forced" her to do things. The whole way we
> met
> > > was
> > > over her interest in Paganism and then she has the gall to say I
> forced
> > > her..... NOT. I was glad she had her church and church friends and got
> > out
> > > of the house. While I have little patience with  fundemetalism, I have
> > no
> > > problem with religions in general. She was the first person to jump on
> > the
> > > bandwagon agianst Christians when we got to together..... just as she
> > > jumps
> > > on the bandwagon against "TABS"....I am sorry if the truth is ugly.
> > >
> > >          I upset people becasue they take my devil advocate position
> as
> > a
> > > serious put down to them rather than a simple example of things from a
> > > different perspective. Just like Kyle got upset about the finanacial
> way
> > I
> > > showed child support. It wasn't against him - it was another to look
> at
> > > it.
> > > People tend to think if you aren't with them you are against when you
> > may
> > > truly not give damn one way or the other. Someone decided after I
> wrote
> > > something I wasn't sympathic to disabled folks why becasue I put out a
> > > different view. Which amuses me - I have a disabled child, disabled
> > boss,
> > > disabled students, disabled friends, other disabled family and
> disabled
> > > customers as well being disabled myself. I am one who caught herself
> > > wondering what was wrong with that child becasue it was normal.
> > >
> > >         I have full sympathy for people but I do have a pet peeve
> about
> > > whining about it. I do remember way back - someone else asking someone
> > if
> > > they wanted a little cheese with their whine. This list is a click and
> > > mostly its the Kyle, Ken and Bobby hour - some one off list told me
> this
> > > was
> > > the most content free list they had ever seen, and they went away
> > without
> > > ever asking for help with the problem they had, since they had CP and
> > came
> > > here for help with a CP related problem - I am afraid that their
> leaving
> > > says something about the value of the list and your ability to make
> > people
> > > feel excluded becasue they don't fit in your groupthink mode.
> > >
> > >         How much flack did I get after someone new with a baby ask
> what
> > is
> > > CP and I made a educational note about with links. How about the
> > > mentioning
> > > the parenting and people got miffed - so .... CP people don't have
> kids
> > > ....
> > > don't needs hints on parenting....... Jennifer of the new baby may
> > > disagree.
> > > I was amused when someone told me - finally the list was showing some
> > > promise of what a great resource it could be. Basically what you have
> > here
> > > is a homogenous chat group and you police it to make sure it satys
> that
> > > way.
> > > You worry about society sticking you in a cocoon becasue you are
> > disabled
> > > -
> > > yet you place yourself in a nice safe cocoon on the list, lets not
> talk
> > > about contraversal stuff - but you know - disbility is an equal
> > oppurunity
> > > enitity so all intelligence levels, religions, social strata's, and
> > > physical
> > > abilities are represented as well as a million opinions and view
> points.
> > >
> > >         I need to have access to a varity of information for Amber and
> > my
> > > students. I also know and acknowlegde that just becasue someone is
> > > disabled
> > > doesn't mean they walk on water - last summer my Access class had 3
> > > disabled
> > > students, the most severely affected one worked harder than the one
> with
> > a
> > > only a vision problem - who spend all his time not coming to class and
> > > leaving the responisibility of his work on all of us making an
> exception
> > > for
> > > him. okay end of lengthy typying session - and I hate typing!!!.
> > >
> > >                                 Trisha
> > >
> > > > You're on a lot firmer ground here, questioning both my intelligence
> > > > and my sanity, has got to be a win/win everytime. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Still I do find it a little worrisome that your admitted intention
> was
> > > > to blacken someone's name privately, off list.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Deri (not black, just a v. dark charcoal) :-)
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 03 Jun 2002 9:52 pm, Trisha Cummings wrote:
> > > > > Deri,
> > > > >
> > > > >   As I said, I thought that was only going to Kyle. Otherwise I
> > > > > wouldn't have mentioned Betty. And frankly, I don't have blacken
> > > > > her name - simple because one is popluar doesn't mean one can't be
> > > > > underhanded and two faced - in fact if you look at politicans you
> > > > > will realize its the satus quo. She certainly can be charming -
> and
> > > > > fun - I just don't want to ever trust her again or be her friend -
> > > > > you guys go right ahead.  Its easy to be a bs'er via the computer
> > > > > you never have face anyone - its tougher face to face. Besides all
> > > > > her rants about people forcing her to do things and her dropping
> > > > > the people are on the list - you guys should be bright enough to
> > > > > put 2 and 2 together - no one has everyone in their life being a
> > > > > total shit. And if they do maybe they need to look at themselves.
> > > > >
> > > > >                                         Trisha
> > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think many people are going to be convinced by your
> > > > > > repeated attempts (this is the second I've seen) to blacken the
> > > > > > name of someone as popular on the list as Betty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do agree about people not being black & white, its just the
> hue
> > > > > > of grey which is so variable. ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Deri

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