On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:46:26 +1000, Phosphor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> first, flax oil tastes great.
>so does coke.
I disagree.
>> second, flax oil is perfectely edible for humans.
>no, its completely inedible - meaning, it *can't* be eaten. to prove this,
i
>suggest you try..to eat one...w/o a neolithic press. just crush one or two
>with a stone. go on...betchya can't do it.
Read above: oil. Edible perfectely.
Similarly flax seeds, easy to use your teeth.
Perfectely edible. Somehow after some time I get tired eating them.
Maybe because of the lignans. The body seems to know when to eat them.
>> third, flax is one of the only two sources of fat in such medium >cool
>places like middle europe (the other is hemp)
>ho ho ho. you forgot about animals.
I didn't. I mentioned the hibernating animals in autumn.
Might be bears and groundhogs.
Try to hunt your animal fat in a climate like the Munich area.
Dears , boars, rabbits are very lean.
Bears or beavers are (were) few. Groundhogs in the mountains only.
What would you hunt all year round?
Since people are frequent here, since celtic or roman times that left
flax, hemp and pigs as a fat source. The latter two only agricultural.
>> fourth, flax has many thousands of years of proven use.
>yes, as a source of linen. never as food.
Oh, how did you find out?
They grew fields of linen and let rot the magnificent seed?
Be shure they were eaten.
If you examine neolithic nutrition which was dominated by 90% of
lentils, barley, "wheat", plus a little milk and little sheep and goat
you come to the decision that it's a little on the omega-6 side.
A little flax is *necessary* to constitute a healthy neolithical nutrition.
I think it's not by accident that the real boost in spreading the
neolithical way of life came shortly after cultivation of flax.
(from 6000 bc in the orient to 4400 bc in middle europe).
Earlier neolithic cultures were somewhat dependant on wild game as a omega-3
source (thit is my own interpretation).
You can find the remains of gazelle-mass-slaughtering buildings in
early neolithic settlements of some 9000bc.
Flax made the gazelles dispensable. And the way of life could spread to
Europe.
>since its your turn...do it. give me your menu. I'm waiting.
Is this your way to meet my challenge? Just waiting?
Just to deny you this chance, here's an example combination:
I use a nutrition program which of course hasn't original AA items.
So I replace them with the modern counterparts as follows:
Acacia seeds (protein 23+-5): chickpeas (protein 20, the arelegumes as well)
fruit : apples
nuts: macadamia
I think this is reasonable as the wild items would be even more nutritions
in vitamins and protein.
I left out the "other seeds" which were eaten by AA because it's to
difficult to find and work with a undisputed modern counterpart.
I even included a little meat because I think they ate a little meat as
available as a addition.
Enjoy
Amadeus
Results:
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Analysis of the diet plan
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Food Amount Energy
Yams fresh 1000 g 1013,4 kcal
Apple fresh 500 g 259,3 kcal
Chickpeas fresh 300 g 424,5 kcal
Macadamia nut fresh 100 g 676,1 kcal
Guinea-fowl, meat with skin fresh 50 g 73,1 kcal
Meal analysis: 2446,5 kcal ( 100 %) Carbohydrate: 344,9 g ( 100 %)
=====================================================================
Result
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Nutrient analysed recommended percentage
value value/day fulfillment
_____________________________________________________________
energy 2446,5 kcal 1958,6 kcal 125 %
protein 61,8 g(10%) 57,8 g(12 %) 107 %
carbohydr. 344,9 g(58%) 279,6 g(> 55 %) 123 %
magnesium 531,0 mg 300,0 mg 177 %
iron 20,4 mg 15,0 mg 136 %
zinc 9,7 mg 7,0 mg 138 %
niacine 19,2 mg - -
Vit. B6 2,8 mg 1,2 mg 232 %
Vit. B2 1,0 mg 1,2 mg 87 %
Vit. B1 2,3 mg 1,0 mg 227 %
tot. fol.acid 418,0 µg 400,0 µg 105 %
biotine 41,0 µg 45,0 µg 91 %
potassium 5284,0 mg 3500,0 mg 151 %
Vit. A 419,0 µg 800,0 µg 52 %
Vit. C 235,0 mg 100,0 mg 235 %
Vit. E 12,1 mg - -
calcium 515,5 mg 1000,0 mg 52 %
phosphorus 1055,0 mg 700,0 mg 151 %
manganese 10,8 mg 3,5 mg 309 %
fat 88,1 g(32%) 66,4 g(< 30 %) 133 %
copper 3,6 mg 1,3 mg 287 %
pantoth. acid 6,8 mg 6,0 mg 113 %
So far.. no problem in this combination.
If you vary the proportions of any item while staying at about 2400 kcal
you'll not find much difference.
Except for the meat.
Increasing it can become dangerous.
Leaving it out doesn't make much difference.
It's just a low energy food item not contributing much but
eaten just because anthing available will have been eaten.
Analysis of the diet plan w/o the meat:
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Food Amount Energy
________________________________________________________________________
Yams fresh 1000 g 1013,4 kcal
Apple fresh 500 g 259,3 kcal
Chickpeas fresh 300 g 424,5 kcal
Macadamia nut fresh 100 g 676,1 kcal
Guinea-fowl, meat with skin fresh 0 g 0,0 kcal
Meal analysis: 2373,3 kcal ( 100 %) Carbohydrate: 344,9 g ( 100 %)
=====================================================================
Result
=====================================================================
Nutrient analysed recommended percentage
value value/day fulfillment
_____________________________________________
energy 2373,3 kcal 1958,6 kcal 121 %
protein 51,7 g(9%) 57,8 g(12 %) 89 %
carbohydr. 344,9 g(59%) 279,6 g(> 55 %) 123 %
magnesium 516,0 mg 300,0 mg 172 %
iron 19,6 mg 15,0 mg 131 %
zinc 9,1 mg 7,0 mg 130 %
niacine 15,7 mg - -
Vit. B6 2,6 mg 1,2 mg 217 %
Vit. B2 1,0 mg 1,2 mg 80 %
Vit. B1 2,2 mg 1,0 mg 223 %
tot. fol.acid 414,0 µg 400,0 µg 104 %
biotine 40,0 µg 45,0 µg 89 %
potassium 5109,0 mg 3500,0 mg 146 %
Vit. A 414,0 µg 800,0 µg 52 %
Vit. C 235,0 mg 100,0 mg 235 %
Vit. E 12,0 mg - -
calcium 510,0 mg 1000,0 mg 51 %
phosphorus 965,0 mg 700,0 mg 138 %
manganese 10,8 mg 3,5 mg 308 %
fat 84,4 g(32%) 66,4 g(< 30 %) 127 %
copper 3,5 mg 1,3 mg 279 %
pantoth. acid 6,3 mg 6,0 mg 105 %
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