I'll bet I'll be learning first hand about lime in mortar, as our new
house pre-dates portland cement. There is a brick bearing wall on a
rubble stone foundation. Above the water table the brick has a stucco
finish scored to simulate large ashlar stone. I guess I'll get the
materials tested for composition in anticipation of repairs. It is so
different to be in the shoes of the owner, rather than the uppity
architect.
QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS
Ilene Tyler, FAIA
219 1/2 N. Main Street
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
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There are 7 messages totalling 367 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Lime
2. List membership...all 111 timewasters...
3. Of mice & moles
4. Praise the Lord....
5. G&E: Of mice & moles (2)
6. Carbonated or Uncarbonated Healing
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 06:04:07 -0500
From: deb bledsoe <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Lime
Hi Philip!
Where the heck have you been? ;)
It's good to see a post from you....
how's the house holding up?
deb
oxford, Oh
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From: "Philip McPherson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Lime
My cousin Linda does not like lime. When she was in college, she used
to deface signs advertising LIME as an ice cream flavor (in the dorm
cafeteria) by putting an S in front of the word.
But I like lime. When my cousins and I go out to a restaurant, if we
have dessert, and if the restaurant has it available, I get key lime
pie.
My cousin Estelle says, "Philip, you are so predictable."
Philip McPherson
Toledo, Ohio
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 06:05:27 -0500
From: deb bledsoe <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: List membership...all 111 timewasters...
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I was about to mui over that "top minds in preservation" or whatever...
mike you are so right!
hehehehe
deb
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From: Ralph Walter=20
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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: List membership...all 111 timewasters...
In a message dated 2/10/2002 5:14:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, =
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MINDS I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP LURKING AND MAYBE HELP SOMEONE OUT ONE =
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Mike,
We are here to serve. And make snide comments.
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 06:06:38 -0500
From: deb bledsoe <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Of mice & moles
hedgehogs are insectivores too...
ask ][<en ;)
deb
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From: "Donald B. White" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:23 AM
Subject: Of mice & moles
Message text written by "What we need, Eric, is your Visa card number!"
>are we mice or men ?
(say aren't moles related ?? <
Mice are rodents (have big incisors that grow continuously) Moles are
insectivores Both, however, are small furry things
My Visa Card Number Remains The Same
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:13:47 EST
From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Praise the Lord....
MethodistHistory writes:
We are making PROGRESS! Sign me, Elmer Gentry
Whaddaya mean "we," GoyBoy?
Sign Me,
Born on the 25th of December
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:21:21 EST
From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: G&E: Of mice & moles
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In a message dated 2/12/2002 3:06:24 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> hedgehogs are insectivores too...
> ask ][<en ;)
Yes, well, I have to admit that Etidorpha's hedgehog dairy and yogurt
plant has not been as productive as I had anticipated since the
"insectivore" thingy came up. (Let alone that Altuna can't seem to get
the design straight on the automatic nipple sucking machine. Do you have
any idea how long it takes to milk a pygmy hedge hog by hand? Talk about
hands-on
demonstrations...) Squeemish milk drinkers is what Etidorpha thinks! We
did hear on the radio this AM about the Olympic athlete who cured her
backache by crushing a cockroach and putting it in her diet coke. Seems
the insect drew out the bad blood in her spine and she was cured in
three weeks. So, what better than predigested bugs in your thick shake?
][<en
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writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff
2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT:
5px">hedgehogs are insectivores too...<BR> ask ][<en
;)</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Yes, well, I have to admit that Etidorpha's
hedgehog dairy and yogurt plant has not been as productive as I had
anticipated since the "insectivore" thingy came up. (Let alone that
Altuna can't seem to get the design straight on the automatic nipple
sucking machine. Do you have any idea how long it takes to milk a pygmy
hedge hog by hand? Talk about hands-on demonstrations...) Squeemish milk
drinkers is what Etidorpha thinks! We did hear on the radio this AM
about the Olympic athlete who cured her backache by crushing a cockroach
and putting it in her diet coke. Seems the insect drew out the bad blood
in her spine and she was cured in three weeks. So, what better than
predigested bugs in your thick shake?<BR> <BR> ][<en</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:06:47 -0500
From: Michael Edison <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Carbonated or Uncarbonated Healing
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John Leeke wrote:
"OK, I'm getting the picture of how lime mortar heals, the calcium in
the lime goes into solution with water and then is deposited (as
crystals?) within the crack. Under what cracked lime mortar conditions
would there b= e partial and full carbonation of the mortar? Does this
mean that if the calcium carbonaate of the mortar is not fully
carbonated there will be no healing?
John Leeke"
I am coming to the conclusion that the degree of carbonation is a point
o= f some disagreement among the lime "experts". I find myself tending
to ag= ree with the proponents of the "it never fully carbonates below
the surfa= ce" school of thought. If nothing else, it corresponds with
what we know = about rates of Portland cement carbonation (yes, portland
carbonates, but= that's bad) which tends to be very, very slow.
Uncarbonated stuff or par= tially carbonated stuff might best be placed
back into the "moosh" catego= ry, and I would suspect that its behavior
is different from full-time sol= ids like calcium carbonate.
As for calcium carbonate and healing, I have heard it argued that the
sol= ubility of calcium carbonate is so low that the process of
stalactite for= mation is more of a physical erosion and transportation
by water of tiny = limestone particles, rather than an actual
dissolution of same.
I'm not sure that's entirely correct. I suspect that even slight
solubili= ty can account for some of what we see in processes like
formation of eff= lorescence.
Michael P. Edison
President
Edison Coatings, Inc.
3 Northwest Drive
Plainville, CT 06062
[log in to unmask]
Phone: (800) 697-8055 or (860) 747-2220
Fax: (800) 697-8044 or (860) 747-2280
Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>John Leeke
wro= te:</DIV> <DIV>"OK, I'm getting the picture of how lime mortar
heals, the= calcium in the<BR>lime goes into solution with water and
then is deposit= ed (as crystals?)<BR>within the crack. Under what
cracked lime mortar con= ditions would there be<BR>partial and full
carbonation of the mortar?&nbs= p; Does this mean that if the<BR>calcium
carbonaate of the mortar is not = fully carbonated there will be
no<BR>healing?<BR><BR>John Leeke"</DIV> <D=
IV> </DIV> <DIV>I am coming to the conclusion that the degree of
IV>car=
bonation is a point of some disagreement among the lime "experts". I
find= myself tending to agree with the proponents of the "it never
fully carbo= nates below the surface" school of thought. If nothing
else, it correspon= ds with what we know about rates of Portland cement
carbonation (yes, por= tland carbonates, but that's bad) which tends to
be very, very slow. Unca= rbonated stuff or partially carbonated stuff
might best be placed back in= to the "moosh" category, and I would
suspect that its behavior is differe= nt from full-time solids like
calcium carbonate.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> = <DIV>As for calcium
carbonate and healing, I have heard it argued that th= e solubility of
calcium carbonate is so low that the process of stalactit= e formation
is more of a physical erosion and transportation by water of = tiny
limestone particles, rather than an actual dissolution of same.<BR><=
BR>I'm not sure that's entirely correct. I suspect that even slight
BR>solub=
ility can account for some of what we see in processes like formation of
= efflorescence.</DIV> <DIV><BR>Michael P. Edison<BR>President<BR>Edison
Co= atings, Inc.<BR>3 Northwest Drive<BR>Plainville, CT
06062<BR>edison@ediso=
ncoatings.com<BR>Phone: (800) 697-8055 or (860) 747-2220<BR>Fax: (800)
69= 7-8044 or (860) 747-2280<BR>Internet:
www.edisoncoatings.com</DIV></BODY>=
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:00:03 EST
From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: G&E: Of mice & moles
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In a message dated 2/12/2002 12:21:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask]
writes:
> We did hear on the radio this AM about the Olympic athlete who cured
> her backache by crushing a cockroach and putting it in her diet coke.
Ruth may have had momentary urinary incontinence, but I'm going to puke.
And not from laughing.
Ralph
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2/12/2002 12:21:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">We did hear on
the radio this AM about the Olympic athlete who cured her backache by
crushing a cockroach and putting it in her diet coke.</FONT><FONT
COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT
COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
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momentary urinary incontinence, but I'm going to puke. And not
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