Amanda, Thanks for your reply. What's the name
of David Ring's book and where can I get it??
Kathy Pink
--- Jim and Amanda Cossey <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> I happen to like David Ring... I have seen him
> speak several times. I have
> read his book twice. I can only speak for
> myself, but he taught me that we
> have no excuses... We do what we need to do..
> inparticular in sharing the
> gospel as a Christian. That is his message.
>
> That's my 2cents..
> Amanda Cossey
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy Pink" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: David Ring
>
>
> > Yes , The Lord loves everybody. Kathy who is
> a
> > Catholic
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Betty B <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > The Lord loves everyone, even you huh?
> You're
> > > diplomatic exit would have
> > > been more than I would have been able to
> > > muster. That's where I would
> > > have...um...probably done the same darned
> > > thing. That's the thing about
> > > being a kid.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry that happened to you.
> Unfortunately
> > > Kat, you probably have a
> > > thousand or more stories similar to that,
> even
> > > if not from the religious
> > > front. The mighty arm of ableism has
> enjoyed a
> > > long and diverse reach, and
> > > has wounded many a soul.
> > >
> > > It will fall. The empire of ableism will
> fall
> > > because we are CAUSING it to
> > > fall.
> > >
> > > Dan has rather a frightening story about
> being
> > > pursued by a fanatic. The
> > > encounter was much more aggressive.
> > >
> > > I am wanting to tell them that if I am made
> in
> > > God's image, than God must
> > > have a disability. I said something of
> this
> > > nature right in a church class
> > > one Sunday not too long ago. We were going
> > > around the table talking about
> > > our issues with God or something; when had
> we
> > > been angry with God, I think
> > > the topic was. When it came to be my turn,
> I
> > > started by saying "Well, in the
> > > first place, my God has a disability."
> Nobody
> > > said anything. What were they
> > > gonna do? They were all within punching
> > > distance, and my minister was
> > > sitting right there. They can't beat me up
> in
> > > front of our minister ;-)
> > >
> > > You think I don't push disability rights to
> the
> > > max there? Oh please, do let
> > > me find out that someone from my own church
> > > used scripture as a platform to
> > > advertise their able body supremacist
> views.
> > >
> > > Do let me find out that someone from my own
> > > church HAS able body supremacist
> > > views. Probably some do, you know how it
> is
> > > with all people. We're human
> > > beings, you know. I'll tell you though,
> junk
> > > thinking doesn't get a thriving
> > > environment where I worship.
> > >
> > > When you walk away from a Christian, and
> feel
> > > bad about your encounter -- as
> > > though you had been condemned -- whatever
> was
> > > done or said to you that made
> > > you feel bad was not ordained by G-d. The
> bad
> > > thing was initiated in the
> > > mind of your assailant. Additionally, if
> > > somebody attacks you for your
> > > beliefs in the name of Christianity, they
> are
> > > not acting in accordance with
> > > scripture. We are not instructed to injure
> our
> > > neighbors, but to love them.
> > >
> > >
> > > This is often a difficult task. Some are
> > > taking instruction from Christian
> > > "leadership" that should not be. Not
> everyone
> > > who has taken a place in the
> > > pulpit has done so by a calling from the
> > > Almighty.
> > >
> > > There are a number of people here who have
> > > shared tales of lousy encounters
> > > such as this, and I am very sorry. I've
> heard
> > > that garbage myself as an
> > > adult and it makes me feel bad. I'm sorry,
> and
> > > I'm terribly sorry for those
> > > of you who were subjected to that kind of
> > > oppressive junk when you were
> > > children.
> > >
> > > That's where it always gets me and holds my
> > > attention. When I think of the
> > > crap that has been said and done to me
> being
> > > said and done to children with
> > > disabilities, I feel ballistic inside.
> Totally
> > > ballistic.
> > >
> > > I'm not your standard Christian, but you
> could
> > > probably tell that right off.
> > >
> > >
> > > Betty
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/20/2002 10:05:14 AM
> > > Eastern Standard Time,
> > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ugh. You're all reminding me of the time
> I
> > > was walking down the street in
> > > > my old home town of North Hollywood,
> Calif.
> > > as a kid when this sweet, sweet
> > > > dumpling of an old lady stopped me. She
> was
> > > in a flowery dress, with a
> > > > flowery hat and a Bible clutched in her
> > > hands, with a white handbag hanging
> > > > in the crook of her arm.
> > > >
> > > > "You are SO special." She boomed into my
> > > face.
> > > >
> > > > I gaped at her. "Huh?"
> > > >
> > > > "You are SO special! The Lord must have
> seen
> > > something in you to make you
> > > > SO special."
> > > >
> > > > "I-" I sputtered.
> > > >
> > > > "Oh YES. The world is so beautiful, the
> sky
> > > is SO blue, the sun is shining,
> > > > the birds are singing, the Lord love
> > > everyone, even YOU."
> > > >
> > > > By this time I was edging away. "Ah...
> > > Ma'am..."
> > > >
> > > > And I got out of there as fast as I
> could...!
> > > >
> > > > She still haunts me in my nightmares.
> > > >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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