I happen to like David Ring... I have seen him speak several times. I have
read his book twice. I can only speak for myself, but he taught me that we
have no excuses... We do what we need to do.. inparticular in sharing the
gospel as a Christian. That is his message.
That's my 2cents..
Amanda Cossey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Pink" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: David Ring
> Yes , The Lord loves everybody. Kathy who is a
> Catholic
>
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>
> --- Betty B <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > The Lord loves everyone, even you huh? You're
> > diplomatic exit would have
> > been more than I would have been able to
> > muster. That's where I would
> > have...um...probably done the same darned
> > thing. That's the thing about
> > being a kid.
> >
> > I'm sorry that happened to you. Unfortunately
> > Kat, you probably have a
> > thousand or more stories similar to that, even
> > if not from the religious
> > front. The mighty arm of ableism has enjoyed a
> > long and diverse reach, and
> > has wounded many a soul.
> >
> > It will fall. The empire of ableism will fall
> > because we are CAUSING it to
> > fall.
> >
> > Dan has rather a frightening story about being
> > pursued by a fanatic. The
> > encounter was much more aggressive.
> >
> > I am wanting to tell them that if I am made in
> > God's image, than God must
> > have a disability. I said something of this
> > nature right in a church class
> > one Sunday not too long ago. We were going
> > around the table talking about
> > our issues with God or something; when had we
> > been angry with God, I think
> > the topic was. When it came to be my turn, I
> > started by saying "Well, in the
> > first place, my God has a disability." Nobody
> > said anything. What were they
> > gonna do? They were all within punching
> > distance, and my minister was
> > sitting right there. They can't beat me up in
> > front of our minister ;-)
> >
> > You think I don't push disability rights to the
> > max there? Oh please, do let
> > me find out that someone from my own church
> > used scripture as a platform to
> > advertise their able body supremacist views.
> >
> > Do let me find out that someone from my own
> > church HAS able body supremacist
> > views. Probably some do, you know how it is
> > with all people. We're human
> > beings, you know. I'll tell you though, junk
> > thinking doesn't get a thriving
> > environment where I worship.
> >
> > When you walk away from a Christian, and feel
> > bad about your encounter -- as
> > though you had been condemned -- whatever was
> > done or said to you that made
> > you feel bad was not ordained by G-d. The bad
> > thing was initiated in the
> > mind of your assailant. Additionally, if
> > somebody attacks you for your
> > beliefs in the name of Christianity, they are
> > not acting in accordance with
> > scripture. We are not instructed to injure our
> > neighbors, but to love them.
> >
> >
> > This is often a difficult task. Some are
> > taking instruction from Christian
> > "leadership" that should not be. Not everyone
> > who has taken a place in the
> > pulpit has done so by a calling from the
> > Almighty.
> >
> > There are a number of people here who have
> > shared tales of lousy encounters
> > such as this, and I am very sorry. I've heard
> > that garbage myself as an
> > adult and it makes me feel bad. I'm sorry, and
> > I'm terribly sorry for those
> > of you who were subjected to that kind of
> > oppressive junk when you were
> > children.
> >
> > That's where it always gets me and holds my
> > attention. When I think of the
> > crap that has been said and done to me being
> > said and done to children with
> > disabilities, I feel ballistic inside. Totally
> > ballistic.
> >
> > I'm not your standard Christian, but you could
> > probably tell that right off.
> >
> >
> > Betty
> >
> > In a message dated 1/20/2002 10:05:14 AM
> > Eastern Standard Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >
> > > Ugh. You're all reminding me of the time I
> > was walking down the street in
> > > my old home town of North Hollywood, Calif.
> > as a kid when this sweet, sweet
> > > dumpling of an old lady stopped me. She was
> > in a flowery dress, with a
> > > flowery hat and a Bible clutched in her
> > hands, with a white handbag hanging
> > > in the crook of her arm.
> > >
> > > "You are SO special." She boomed into my
> > face.
> > >
> > > I gaped at her. "Huh?"
> > >
> > > "You are SO special! The Lord must have seen
> > something in you to make you
> > > SO special."
> > >
> > > "I-" I sputtered.
> > >
> > > "Oh YES. The world is so beautiful, the sky
> > is SO blue, the sun is shining,
> > > the birds are singing, the Lord love
> > everyone, even YOU."
> > >
> > > By this time I was edging away. "Ah...
> > Ma'am..."
> > >
> > > And I got out of there as fast as I could...!
> > >
> > > She still haunts me in my nightmares.
> > >
>
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