A quick fix for the New York Times web pages is to use the insert plus enter
command.  Do this until you hear the date of the article.  with the next press
of insert enter you'll hear the speech say, "graphic" followed by the title of
the article.  Then you're at the beginning.  For subsequent pages do a serch for
the text, "page 2" and then you're at the beginning of the second page.

Sue W. Martin
Computer Access Specialist
The Iris Network
Formerly The Maine Center for the Blind
and Visually Impaired
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(207) 664-2317

> -----Original Message-----
> From: VICUG-L: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Peter Seymour
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 1:11 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: The New York Times
>
>
> I am also frustrated by the New York Times. Every day, I get about 3
> different emails, which list the articles for headlines, opinions,
> technology and arts. I read a synopsis of the article and if I am
> interested in reading the whole article, I click on the url just below the
> synopsis.
>
> The article is downloaded and I have to hit the down arrow about 65 times
> before getting to the top of the article that I want. Does anybody know of
> a quicker way for me to skip over the 65 links for everything you can
> imagine, but nothing to do with what I clicked on the article for.
>
> It used to be about 30 presses of the down arrow, so the change that I
> notice is that it takes me about 30 seconds to find the top of the article.
> And it has made a difference. I used to click on the article with an
> interesting synopsis, wait the 20 seconds for that, then hit about 30 down
> arrows. Now that the time has been increased, I don't read the articles
> anymore. It is just too much time for often mediocre articles.
>
> Peter Seymour
>
>
> At 10:18 PM 4/5/01 -0500, Jay Leventhal wrote:
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >Are any of you as frustrated as I am with what the New York Times has done
> >to their Web site? Now, when you choose an article, you have to page-down
> >four times to get to the text. Then, you usually find only the first
> >"page." You need to choose "single Page View" to get the full text. Then
> >you have to page-down again, or use your screen reader's list of links to
> >choose something you know is near the beginning of the text.
> >
> >What are they thinking? Maybe sighted people aren't bothered by the
> >clutter. But, who wants to read only one screen of an article?
> >
> >Jay Leventhal
> >
> >
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