Gassama, needless to say, I noticed how you avoided the topic of discussion
totally and instead went on to other absurd matters. Contrary to what you
think, I do NOT want you to disappear from G_L. I want you to stay here and
hang yourself. Pledge to disagree with me all the time and hold ‘different
views’ and see whether I will call for you to be ‘delisted’. I will NOT make
vermin like you martyrs here on G_L. I see you are NOT talking about Bakary
Njie and the PPP Mafia any more. You know your job is on the line. This
weekend I am going back to your Kebba Jobe postings. Like Yaya, you are also
finished. To say that I hate you and your likes, is putting it mildly. I do
NOT dine with child murderers and thieves.

You call my calling Yaya a thief baseless? While you were Kebba Jobe and
also while you were Pa Modou Gassama, I gave you concrete proof about Yaya
stealing millions of dollars to open Swiss Bank Accounts. I even gave you
the account number in Switzerland where Yaya gave Ebou Jallow power of
attorney. I gave you the case number for the case in Geneva between Ebou
Jallow and Yaya. Go and ask the Attorney General that recovered the $3
million whose name was in that account. Don’t’ take my word for it. You move
from the documents filed in court for everyone to see and just look at how
the moron is dishing out cash and you are left with no doubt that he is
stealing from the people. You tell me how Yaya (in seven short years) can
amass more wealth than Jawara who was the president for 30 years. The
low-life has a farm, fenced a whole village in Kanilai and say that he owns
it. Received bribe from CSE to build his villas in Kanilai; list goes on.
One of these days I will also talk about the drug-trafficking of the vermin
running our country.

You call stealing tens of millions of dollars from the Gambian poor
‘mistakes’ of an inexperienced government? You call the slaughter of our
children ‘mistakes’ we should learn from? I say these are REASONS to kick
these animals out of power and put them in jail where they belong.

To you the Opposition will never have an agenda. Instead what you would see
is an ‘agenda’ from High School drop-outs that have rendered our people
poorer during their watch. With the AFPRC/APRC, we are not talking about a
future plan, we are talking about a failed plan. They stole power from a
democratically elected government. Stole an election in 1996. Imposed
themselves on the Gambian people, just to steal from us and kill our
children. Come October, we will show them that we know they are lying when
they say they have an agenda to lift our people up.

Don’t think that I forgot the things you want to ignore because you want to
keep a job and continue in this sycophancy. I will NOT take you as a
prisoner. You are going down hard. Mark my words.
KB


>From: Jungle Sunrise <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Of goats and politics
>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:03:52 +0000
>
>Dampha,
>
>Get real. You cannot wish me to disappear and it happens. It is high time
>you recognize that this forum is to enable all Gambians to share their
>opinion of anything that will be useful to all of us. Why is it that you
>cannot handle any views that are different from yours? In my opinion you
>should try to discuss Gambian affaires without so much anger and hatred.
>You
>call people morons, vermin, despicable etec, etc. Why, for God's sake?
>
>Another thing I cannot understand is your obssession with baseless
>accusations that these people are stealing money willy-nilly. Why do you
>hate them so much? The country belongs to all including Jammeh. In this
>critical time in our history it is incumbent upon all of us to put our
>heads
>together to build a better Gambia. The democracy, good governance, human
>rights etc, that you keep going on about are not events that just happen.
>They are processes that we all have work on. along the way there will be
>mistakes and these mistakes need to be studied to avoid repeating them. At
>this point in time we have to look forwards and seek solutions to our
>problems on the way. There shouldn't be so much hatred amongst us.
>Dampha,Muna issiso fring. Relax brother. Remember that it was the
>collective
>will of the Gambian people that put this government in place way back in
>1996. The only way to change it democratically is through the enlightenment
>of our people to enable them make informed choices.
>
>Time and time again I have told you that my refusal to support the UDP, NRP
>or PDOIS is not because I hate them. It has more to do with their political
>ideologies and style of delivery. I support this government based on their
>vission for this country and how they going about achieving  them. With the
>exception of PDOIS, I don't know what the other parties stand for. I like
>most of PDOIS's programmes but dislike others. This, I cannot say of the
>other parties. The other parties don't seem to know what they want except
>to
>get rid of Jammeh. Period. If they were really serious about the betterment
>of the country and not for other motives why are they finding it difficult
>to even explain to the ordinary people why they want to be elected?
>
>Have a good day, Gassa.
>
>>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Of goats and politics
>>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:02:36 -0400
>>
>>Gassama, I warned you the other day about lying about people, but I guess
>>you are just an incorrigible sycophant that CANNOT help himself.
>>Ordinarily
>>I would ignore your irrational rattling because we are now looking forward
>>to a brand new Gambia with a new leadership different from anything the
>>country has seen before. But on second thought, I am now going to follow
>>you
>>again all over G_L like I followed you when you were Kebba Jobe and help
>>you
>>hang yourself. As we move on, I will remind you of certain things you have
>>said about people like Waa Juwara, the UDP leadership, Hamat Bah, PDOIS,
>>the
>>APRC parliamentarians etc. and enjoy you as you swallow your garbage.
>>
>>Now to your post. In your attempt to sound intelligent and in your
>>insatiable quest to be taken seriously by decent folk, you penned this
>>ridiculous and silly post. You contradicted yourself again. You are a
>>product of the Jawara era. Who were your ‘connections’ in the Mafiosi? How
>>did you get a scholarship to go and study abroad from a government that
>>did
>>NOT give Ebrima Ceesay a scholarship? Is your boss Bakary Njie also part
>>of
>>the Mafiosi you hate so much? How about Fisco Conateh, Amadou Samba, Tarik
>>Musa; list goes on. Njie held the same post during the Jawara era that he
>>has today. The other people I listed above also did relatively well under
>>both regimes. Would you go on record and accuse Njie of corruption?
>>Remember
>>that one day you insinuated that your boss was corrupt to have given
>>Ousainou Darboe a retainer at Gamtel. Do you stand by that innuendo? Mind
>>you, Bakary Njie has every right to dismiss you for using Gamtel time to
>>spend hours on G_L as Kebba Jobe.
>>
>>If the Jawara government was so good at fooling the Gambian people and
>>rendering them ignorant, how come High School drop-outs like Yaya (morons)
>>were the only ‘smart’ Gambians to detect that we needed changes? This is
>>why
>>I said that your analysis is illogical. This Mafia you are talking about
>>is
>>a figment of your imagination. I bet you that I can tell you more horror
>>stories about the Jawara regime (because you were enjoying during that
>>regime and I was NOT). But unlike you, most of us are looking forward to a
>>Gambia led by one of our current Opposition leaders. We will NOT go around
>>lying about imagined horrors.
>>
>>Gambians have heard it all. We all know that this is what gets people jobs
>>and favors from this illegal regime. Play victim of the Jawara regime. Say
>>how corrupt and unfair that government was to you and bingo you are an
>>AFPRC/APRC stalwart. This is why I pounced on Joseph Joof when he was
>>appointed to show that he enjoyed from the Jawara regime more than Hawa
>>Sisay whose father was a cabinet minister. You are all a bunch of losers.
>>I
>>don’t understand how you people can hate yourself so much to pretend that
>>you were the down-trodden during the former regime. We all know that you
>>are
>>a bunch of liars. This is NOT about wiping out corruption and lifting up
>>people that were left behind. This is about jealous criminals and
>>low-lives
>>stealing power to get stuff they do NOT deserve. Societal norms demand
>>certain things from citizens before they enjoy certain life-styles. For
>>instance, good education, good manners, good family, good friends. You
>>people could NOT measure up to society’s expectations and demands. What
>>did
>>you do? High School drop-outs instead of getting better education, decided
>>to steal power.
>>
>>Should people take you seriously when you come here and rattle about
>>Jawara
>>corruption when you support a bigger thief with hefty Swiss Bank accounts?
>>Meanwhile the Jawara you are accusing have been taken to Commissions of
>>Inquiries that found NOTHING on the man. You just proved that despite all
>>the education the Jawara government provided for you, you are still a
>>‘cave-man’. You are so blatantly stupid that you do NOT even realize that
>>people got your number.
>>
>>Like I promised you yesterday, you are going down. And going down hard. At
>>first I was thinking about your young children and was ignoring you when
>>you
>>‘came out’ because I did not want you to lose your job and your
>>livelihood.
>>Now, by the time I am done with you, we would not be talking about a job
>>again. Decent Gambians will ostracize you to your computer. You will be an
>>aimless nonentity again.
>>KB
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Jungle Sunrise <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Of goats and politics
>>>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:54:24 +0000
>>>
>>>Inspired by one of the songs of the Senegambian superstar, Yousou Ndure,
>>>I
>>>would like to share a few tales with you. The reason for wanting to share
>>>my
>>>opinion of this particular song with you is because of its relation to
>>>many
>>>an incident that sometimes goes un-noticed while very easy to see. Please
>>>allow me to explain a few things for people to understand how these
>>>seemingly unconnected things are actually an integral part of the whole
>>>story. Let’s start with a few definitions first.
>>>
>>>BEIYE (GOAT): small, active horned domestic animal; get one’s goat (sl) -
>>>irritate or annoy one; play/act the giddy goat - play the fool/behave in
>>>a
>>>foolish and excited way; separate the sheep from the goats – separate the
>>>good from the bad.
>>>
>>>Those familiar with West Africa know that goats play a very significant
>>>role
>>>in our lives. They are highly resistant to diseases and reproduce very
>>>quickly and very rarely give birth to single babies. We often rear them
>>>for
>>>their meat, milk, horns for jujus and hide for our drums.
>>>
>>>CHERREH: West African cereal meal usually made from sorghum or corn; very
>>>nice with goat meat.
>>>
>>>DAHINNE: A very thick cereal meal that is also very nice when prepared
>>>with
>>>goat’s meat. There is a Wollof saying that goes like this: “Dahinne Baku
>>>lenye ko yengalleh”. Meaning you steer Dahinne with a wooden spoon and
>>>not
>>>the conventional spoons, as they will break.
>>>
>>>In this particular song, Yousou Ndure advises that let the goats go with
>>>the
>>>goats or they may go with the “Cherreh” or the “Dahinne”. For all intents
>>>and purposes, we all know that the goat is better off being within other
>>>goats than within the “Cherreh” or “Dahinne”. This reminded me of a joke
>>>I
>>>was told a couple of years ago.
>>>
>>>THE JOKE
>>>A wealthy domineering father, his hardworking wife, his sons of about ten
>>>and three and their mate lived in a big house. The dad always wanted to
>>>talk
>>>about politics to the ten year old kid who would rather not have anything
>>>to
>>>do with politics. However, out of respect and fear, he tried to get
>>>interested in his dad’s drivel about politics. He decided to ask his dad,
>>>while having dinner one day, what politics was all about. His dad, who
>>>was
>>>very excited by his kid’s interest in politics, explained politics thus:
>>>
>>>You see son, I have all the money and everything in this house belongs to
>>>me. So I am “the capitalist”. Your mother here runs the house and she is
>>>therefore “the government”. You see the mate there doing all the dirty
>>>work
>>>there? She is “the masses”. And we are all doing this for you, “the
>>>people”
>>>and your brother, “the future”. The boy was very confused but pretended
>>>to
>>>understand. Unfortunately that night, his younger brother did it in bed
>>>and
>>>the whole room was smelly. He went to inform the mum but found her in
>>>such
>>>a
>>>deep sleep that he could not wake her up and his father was not around.
>>>He
>>>decided to go wake the mate. However, the mate’s door was locked and she
>>>did
>>>not answer his knocking even though there were some noises coming from
>>>within. He decided to peep through the keyhole to see what was the
>>>matter.
>>>To his surprise, he saw his dad and the mate doing it with such passion
>>>and
>>>vigor that they did not even hear him knocking the door. Discouraged, he
>>>went back to the smelly room and tried as best as he could to clean up
>>>his
>>>younger brother and then went to sleep. The next day he was the last to
>>>get
>>>to the breakfast table were everyone else was already having their
>>>breakfast. After saying good morning to them, he told his dad that he
>>>really
>>>understood politics now. His father was naturally very excited and asked
>>>him
>>>to explain what he understood about politics. He told his dad that
>>>politics
>>>is when “the capitalists” SCREW “the masses”, “the government” IGNORES
>>>“the
>>>people” and “the future” is FULL OF SHIT.
>>>
>>>Now to those who are yet to get my drift, I will like to share my views
>>>of
>>>Gambian politics and our concept of it. For over thirty years we had a
>>>government that made absolutely no attempt to free its people from
>>>ignorance
>>>but instead built an oligarchy of very corrupt people who were very
>>>insensitive to the plight of the ordinary people. For more than three
>>>decades we had a government that did everything that the colonialists did
>>>to
>>>subdue and control our people. For more than three decades we had one of
>>>the
>>>most corrupt governments that subdued its citizens like slaves, mystified
>>>the role of our leadership and mesmerized the whole population. They used
>>>us
>>>to weep up nationalist sentiments and hypnotized us into believing that
>>>anything other than the status quo was detrimental to the state and our
>>>people. We followed them wherever they went and did everything they
>>>wanted
>>>us to do. We were just like zombies. This government consolidated
>>>everything
>>>bad that the colonialists did. They created and nurtured various clans
>>>that
>>>co-existed in “peace and harmony” and enjoyed all sorts of rights (both
>>>human and animal rights). We had a clan that ruled, a clan that produced
>>>doctors and high ranking officials, a clan that produced lawyers, a clan
>>>that tilled the soil, a clan that sang praises and the rest who comprised
>>>the clan of the hopeless.
>>>
>>>The clan that tilled the soil did so honestly and with dedication. Some
>>>of
>>>them managed to send some of their kids to school, some of whom became
>>>low
>>>paid policemen, teachers, dispensers, health workers, agricultural
>>>workers
>>>etc., etc. They also produced some very daring individuals who, while
>>>they
>>>could not continue their education due to poverty and lack of
>>>opportunity,
>>>had the brains to understand that something was seriously wrong
>>>somewhere.
>>>Some of these instead of researching how to improve our subsistence
>>>farming
>>>methods or some other worthwhile things figured out how to join what has
>>>become an oligarchy of privileged people. These soon perfected the art of
>>>stealing massive sums of money from our poor folks. Some of them, when
>>>found
>>>out were promoted or transferred to more secure positions were they can
>>>plunder our meager resources without the rest of society knowing about
>>>it.
>>>This was done in return for them not revealing to the rest of the
>>>destitute
>>>Gambians how they became rich over night and gained the respect of the
>>>Mafiosi. This new breed of thieves ganged up together and plundered all
>>>the
>>>aid that came into this country. While their kids enjoyed the best
>>>education
>>>available here and abroad, led the most flamboyant of lifestyles, the
>>>rest
>>>of society looked on with utter disbelieve. While we had the honest
>>>griots
>>>telling the stories of our gallant past, the dishonest ones sang the
>>>praises
>>>of the Mafiosi. For this, this latter group was rewarded with lots and
>>>lots
>>>of money and other privileges. This was the order of the day until one
>>>fateful July day a group of young army officers rudely invited themselves
>>>to
>>>the party sending most on their way to exile.
>>>
>>>To be continued.
>>>
>>>Have a good day, Gassa.
>>>
>>>
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