I'm not sure I fully understand what you are saying.  the goal is to
design the web so that all are served.  making pages accessible in this
light hinders no one and all are pleased.  if your senario were correct,
a lot less pages would be accessible to us than are.  I am not
advocating dumbing anything down or robbing anyone of access at either
end of the continuum.  What you say near the end of your message is
correct but you seem to indicate that you feel that we are not thre yet.
I agree to some degree with this but we know what works so it just needs
applying.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Chapin" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Web Access; When the Rubber Meets the Road


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Poehlman [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

> yes, and one way to make the problem go away is to design for all.
>
There's a reason that people put in those features.  For the sighted,
they
increase the appeal of the site which equals more business.  If I'm an
independent designer, I have to give my customers the kind of flashy
site
that they want.

At a philosophical level, I don't think people should be required to
visually dumb down their sites because somebody wouldn't install decent
software.  I already know people who aren't making their pages
accessible
because its too hard to will creating an interesting page.  You can
visually
interesting pages.  You can accessible pages.  You can have pages that
are
relatively easy to create and maintain.  Pick two and forget the third.
Usually, it's accessibility that gets dropped.

We need to make it easy to create accessible, graphically attractive
pages.
That requires upgrading the standards that I work against.