> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Poehlman [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

> yes, and one way to make the problem go away is to design for all.
>
There's a reason that people put in those features.  For the sighted, they
increase the appeal of the site which equals more business.  If I'm an
independent designer, I have to give my customers the kind of flashy site
that they want.

At a philosophical level, I don't think people should be required to
visually dumb down their sites because somebody wouldn't install decent
software.  I already know people who aren't making their pages accessible
because its too hard to will creating an interesting page.  You can visually
interesting pages.  You can accessible pages.  You can have pages that are
relatively easy to create and maintain.  Pick two and forget the third.
Usually, it's accessibility that gets dropped.

We need to make it easy to create accessible, graphically attractive pages.
That requires upgrading the standards that I work against.