I will have to not agree also. I just bought a Pentium 4 system and the hard
drive came jumpered for cable select. And I can't remember my old Pentium 3
system having that.

Neal Collins


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>   I can't agree, for three basic reasons:
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> 1.  Dell routinely uses Cable Select on all their EIDE/ATAPI drives.
> You can change it, but they don't think you should need to.
>
> 2.  Cable Select *means* "do it without manually selecting
> master/slave.  It allows any drive to be plugged into any position
> and work; it requires cables with a twist (or other special feature)
> so that master and slave are associated with specific connectors
> rather than with the drive jumpers.
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> 3.  There may be things in a computer that a given user doesn't
> understand, but there's no voodoo.  Eliminating jumpers will require
> something that takes their place, and that something is going to be
> understood by at least some of the members of this list -- who will
> be willing to try to explain it to anyone who asks.
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> On 9 Jul 2001, at 19:16, Joel M. Blackman wrote:
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> > It doesn't mean anything anymore.  Cable select hasn't been used
> > for some time.  Soon enough, slave and master will mean nothing,
> > that will all be done by the computer without setting jumpers.
> >
> >
> > Jumper settings for a hard drive include master, slave and cable
> > select. What does this mean?
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