Coach
Please note my participation in this debate is NOT to
defend the PPP record on Human Rights. In fact, I have
never supported PPP in my life, will not buy their
lip-service record on Human Rights at any market. I
have a good recollection on Human Rights violation
under the PPP regime. So take note about that.
This debate is whether Chongan deserves the treatment
he received from some of our colleagues. I am still
not convinced that he has been fairly treated for the
reasons mentioned in my previous postings.
Once again thanks for the contribution
Sanusi
--- Pasamba Jow <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Joe,
> I was not going to participate in this debate but
> your points deserve commendation. I really enjoy
> reading Ebou Colly's naration ,which i believe are
> important in understanding Jammeh's fascism. After
> the 1994 coup people were constantly arrested and
> tortured with impunity. I have been threatened a
> number of times by soldiers for criticising the
> government. The thugery of the council members was
> very evident to all Gambians, people lived in a
> state of fear. But in as much as we want to
> prosecute Jammeh and his clique, we should also not
> forget the crimes committed by Jawara and his group.
> after the 81 coup people were tortured daily at the
> mile two prisons. If anybody had had the opportunity
> of reading the publication by Halifa Sallah and Sam
> Sarr entitled "HOW MANY MORE WILL HAVE TO DIE AT THE
> MILE TWO PRISON? AN EMERGENCY SITUATION", then you
> would understand the level of crimes committed
> against Gambians. The gernderme was one of the most
> arrogant force in the Gambian, even after they
> started going to Turkey for training. I am hoping
> for the day when Jammeh, Jawara, Saihou sabally,
> Sana sabally, Singhateh, or anybody who is acused of
> human rights violation will have their day in court.
> The Gambian people deserve to know the truth and
> justice must be served.
> Pasamba Jow
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Sambou
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:09 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP
>
> Secka, that's the spirit in which we should view
> this issue. Just because a family member or
> friend's rights were not personally violated, does
> not mean we look the other way. We may never feel
> the way all the victims in these violations felt
> during their ordeal, but we can certainly understand
> their agony. My position is that Lokai and the
> countless victims are human and Gambian, therefore,
> when their rights are violated under the
> constitution of the Gambia, I am also violated. I
> just mentioned Badou and Lokai, but I can easily
> list many names of victims of Chongan and his batch
> mates, and they (his batch mates) are certainly not
> the only ones. Prior to the completion of the
> stadium, the Scorpions used to camp at the Police
> Depot, where Chongan et al underwent their training.
> A great many of them were my friends or neighbors
> and I never wasted time to cautioned them (not
> Chongan in particular) that one day the tables are
> going to change, and the criminals will have to
> answer to the people. Detainees from the Kukoi
> rampage, curfew violators, petty criminals, and
> others were brought in the camp and we all saw what
> happened to them. Folks, we are all Gambians and
> have seen different things happen in that country at
> different times. I am addressing Chongan because he
> has the courage to come forward to expose the thugs,
> and I would not have said anything had he also
> addressed his victims. He understoodd and felt
> their pain, especially after his experience. Those
> days are gone when we turn the other way because we
> are not directly affected. What the thugs are doing
> now is just an extension of what they started 30
> years or so ago. What the NIA thugs did and
> continue to do to Dumo Saho is the same thing the
> CID did to him 25 years ago, and some of us can
> certainly testify to that. The CIDs of yester years
> are the NIAs of today. I was in the Gambia in 1999
> and 2000, and the soldiers behaved just as bad as I
> left them in 1985, only now they carry more lethal
> weapons and threaten to shoot anyone around. They
> greet you with their thugry at the Air Port.
> Folks, we are going to discuss the wrongs committed
> against our people by any regime, be it military or
> civilian. I will not turn my back on any victim,
> for a victim, is a victim, and a victim, anyway you
> slice it. Lets try to walk in all victims' shoes
> and not just some victims. On that note, let's
> focus on healing the wounds of past violations,
> fight present violations, in order to prevent future
> violations.
> Chi Jaama
> Joe Sambou
>
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