On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Dr. Pat Patterson wrote:

> I am waiting and hoping to hear someone say that (s)he is losing weight
> following Neanderthin without counting carbs.  Is anyone losing weight
> in this way?

I am, slowly. I started dieting on Atkins and gained 15
pounds (partially my own fault because I was eating
tons of dairy). Since I cut out dairy and cut back
drastically on vinegar, I lost that extra 15, plus 8
more.

I'm finding that when I stick to mainly steaks and
berries, I lose. When I start adding other types of
meat (even hamburger) and fruit, I don't. It's too
soon to say if that observation is only in my head,
or based on reality.

I do know that I pigged out on kiwi, watermelon,
catalopue and howneydew, and gained 2 pounds.
At least, the pig out got the cravings out of my
system, because fruit is something I really missed
on Atkins.

Vickie



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