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Point taken, guys!!

It's just that in Australia, our accents are harsher, and those terms
are used in a demeaning way, so I guess I have a reflex reation to
hearing them.  But with a Southern American accent, I agree that it
sounds like it is part of common usage.  Actually, I usually enjoy
hearing that accent so much, I could listen to someone with that
accent read the phone book!!

Rayna (I'm Australian, remember! ;-) )

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 03:15:21PM -0500, Lee McElhenney wrote:
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    <P>In response to the discussion about sugar, honey, sweetie,&nbsp;</P>
    <P>I agree with the demeaning tone they are sometimes accompanied by, but take heed and listen to where they really come from.&nbsp; My 80 year old grandmother from south philly has been calling strangers sweetie, honey, dear, darling for all of her 80 years, and people seem to melt in her hands.&nbsp; Look to the source, not the words.&nbsp; </P>
    <P>Lee<BR><BR></P></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Cleveland, Kyle E." <[log in to unmask]>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: "St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List" <[log in to unmask]>
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: [log in to unmask]
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Today
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:59:46 -0500
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;BTW...Sugar, or "Shugah", is also another active noun for hugs &amp; kisses. As
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;when my mother would say, "Come over heah and give your Mama some Shugah!"
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;-Kyle
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;-----Original Message-----
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Cleveland, Kyle E. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:38 AM
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: [log in to unmask]
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Today
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;They're not just for women where I come from. It's a typical address from
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;female wait staff as in, "You know wut you wont, honey (sugar, etc.).
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;-Kyle
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;-----Original Message-----
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Rayna Lamb [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:15 AM
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: [log in to unmask]
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Today
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 01:41:49AM -0500, Bobby Greer wrote:
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; In a message dated 2/17/01 6:33:22 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; &lt;&lt; Yes Bobby, you're good at voicing yourself :-) However I wouldn't
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;call her
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; honey or you might be hit.
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; Anthony &gt;&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; Honey is demeaning if it comes from another woman.
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; Bobby
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; Honey is demeaning if it comes from anyone who is a complete
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; stranger to you. (also, sweetie, love, sugar, babe, dearie, sweetheart
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; etc. And WHY are these terms usually only used to refer to women?!?!)
    <DIV></DIV>&gt;
    <DIV></DIV>&gt; Rayna
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