Oliva writes:

[In the marriage vows today, that old chattel claptrap is still being used.
"Who giveth this woman......."blah, blah, blah, ad nauseam.  It's usually a
man giving the woman to another man.....  How sickening.....   Oliva]


Perhaps you're beginnig to understand something you didn't a few days ago
;-)

siobhan