is there a market for all terrain scooters and chairs.  four wheel drive
etc. could a good engineer design one that would be affordable?   maybe just
design a club to beat these people with until they are willing to stop and
pay attention.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rayna Lamb [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 11:10 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Curb Cuts - Jump up and down on Desks, People!


Oh, so it isn't just Aussie councils that are morons,  a lot of the
`new' curb cuts aren't level here in Perth.  Disabled advocates have
been explaining about this for years, but NO-ONE LISTENS.  I would
have thought it would be obvious to most people that they need to be
level, most wheelchairs/scooters aren't designed for rough terrain.
Mind you, entrances to DRIVEWAYS are almost always level.  Call me
paranoid, but I think this is more than simple ignorance on the part
of the people in charge, if they haven't got the message after all
these years, they never will.

Rayna

On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:07:16AM -0500, greer.bobby wrote:
    The City of Memphis must have gotten a load of Federal dollars for curb
cuts.
    They are putting them on all the main streets of East Memphis(the
upwardly
    mobile section, no pun intended). Anyway, they put in these super nice
curb at
    the bottom of which is about one and a half to two inches of jagged
asphalt! No
    on thought to tell the bozos that the curb cut should be level with the
    pavement!

    Bobby

    Barber, Kenneth L. wrote:

    > you are so right carla, nothing moves politicians like publicity.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Carla MacInnis [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
    > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:00 AM
    > To: [log in to unmask]
    > Subject: Curb Cuts - Jump up and down on Desks, People!
    >
    > Mag,
    >
    >   You need to use the media to your advantage with regard to getting
curb
    > cuts.
    > Call the lifestyles editor of several papers. Heck call your local tv
    > station. Tell
    > them it's a human interest story that affects everyone, not just those
with
    > mobility disabilities. Or, you could chain yourself to a lamp post
until
    > things
    > start to happen :)
    >
    >   Years ago, in the city of Fredericton, I called the Mayor's office
and
    > they gave
    > me a police officer and a van for the day. We drove around the city,
scoping
    > out
    > poor side walks and crappy curbs, and I wrote a report and it was
submitted
    > to City
    > Council. Within a month, work began, street by street, on fixing cuts;
heck,
    > there
    > were 4 curbs in front of a nursing home that had no cuts. Scary.
    >
    >   Approaching the newspaper is one of the best ways to get the message
out
    > there -
    > not only wheelchair users need the assist, but parents with tots in
    > strollers, the
    > elderly with walkers/canes. Nothing worse than getting a cane lodged
in a
    > crack on
    > the sidwalk - I've seen more than one elder take a flip. Not fun.
    >
    >   If each of us did this sort of thing in our city/town, things would
move
    > along
    > very nicely, I'm sure.
    >
    > Cheers!
    >
    > Carla
    > http://www.brunnet.net/terrier