In a message dated 5/19/00 10:14:50 AM CST, [log in to unmask] writes:

<< I call my previous low-fat vegetarian diet low-protein because it was
 - I was on the McDougall plan and he specifically says that too much
 protein is bad. I didn't eat much tofu or other things that
 vegetarians commonly eat for protein - it was indeed a low-protein
 diet and I think that in itself may have helped set me up for
 cravings >>

Zoe,
Just wanted to throw in a blurb here-
I, too, was on the McDougal/Ornish plans combined. I did this for about a
year.
I had serious cravings all the time. I was hungry all the time no matter how
much I ate. I tried to combine foods for a complete protein, like beans and
rice, etc.
My hair got thin and I was not in a very good mood much of the time.
I think those plans were the worst things I could have ever done to myself.
Now, I eat mostly meat and green veggies with a speck of fruit occasionally.
I do use a small amount of cream and an even smaller amount of cheese.
Very little though.
I feel better than I ever have and have some really nice muscles. I began
weight training about a month after beginning a lowered carb eating plan. I
was amazed to see how fast my muscle tone improved and how defined my muscles
became. I believe it is due to the protein. I never had such results with a
vegetarian eating plan.

I used to have an aversion to meat (why I tried to be a vegetarian) but  now
have overcome that feeling completely.

mc