As I stated in my last message, I could have placed the word in quotes to
make it clear to the obnoxious.

-gts

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Stuart" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [P-F] Optimal Health


> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:15:16 -0500, gordon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >Ken,
> >
> >> I just re-read your message and could not find your "announcement of
> >> intention to anthropomorphize".   Could you give a quote, please?
> >
> >I might have used "quotes" around my word, "gladly", to make it clear to
the
> >obnoxious that the word "gladly" was bracketed.  Instead I wrote the
> >following near the beginning of that message:
> >
> >>> (Like you I use quotes because it is difficult to speak of a "goal"
> >>> or "purpose" of evolution when evolution does not in reality have
> >>> purpose, but I will stop with the quotes because it makes for
> >>> awkward reading.)
> >
> >But you missed it or ignored it.
> >
> >Casual discussion of evolution is often riddled with such
anthropomorphisms.
> >It is natural to speak as if adaptive behaviors like those of the praying
> >mantis are "purposeful" and that bugs are "glad" to act according to
their
> >intincts. We know such words are used only for the sake of illustration.
>
> There is a difference between anthropomorphisms with regards to evolution
and
> anthropomorphisms with regards to animals.
>
> Given the media attention to PETA, anthropomorphisms with regards to
animals
> have 100 times more societal status than anthropomorphisms with regards to
> evolution.
>
> So, I naturally assumed you were ascribing motives, feelings, etc. to the
> insects per se, irrespective of those of evolution.
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ken Stuart" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 12:29 PM
> >Subject: Re: [P-F] Optimal Health
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:40:14 -0500, gordon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I specifically announced my intention to anthropomorphize, Ken.
Perhaps
> >you
> >> >should read more closely, and contribute something of use to the
> >discussion.
> >>
> >> I just re-read your message and could not find your "announcement of
> >intention
> >> to anthropomorphize".   Could you give a quote, please?
> >>
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Ken Stuart" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 11:00 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: [P-F] Optimal Health
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:35:51 -0500, gordon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >The female devours her mate's head,
> >> >> >which he gladly sacrifices as food to help nourish the fertilized
egg.
> >> >>
> >> >> A little bit of "projection" is going on here with the use of the
word
> >> >"gladly".
> >> >>
> >> >> Don't take those PBS "Nature" programs quite so seriously... :-)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >>
> >> >> Ken
> >> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Ken
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Ken
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>