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"Kyle E. Cleveland" <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
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Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:55:27 -0500
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Yeah, I don't get it.  When we "do it ourselves", society champions us (the
disabled), but when we ask for a hand up, suddenly we become a burden.  What
a guilt trip to lay on someone.

-Kyle

(Who, incidently, has fallen twice in the office today and had to ask for
help to stand up because my legs were spasming and I couldn't get 'em to
straighten out.  I'm layin' in the floor for gawdsake and people are walking
around me!).

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Greer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 11:09 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Betty/Jody Dunkel


Kyle,

        If you think about it, we would come to no one's attention as
"disabled"
if we weren't a pain in the ass to someone. Show me a person with CP living
in the boonies and not bothering anyone and I show a non-disabled
individual from society's viewpoint.

Bobby



>Oh, Hell, Mike.  I think wi' me nads all the time.  Doesn't make me want to
>off anybody, just irritates my wife when she'd tries to do housework
>("...so, honey, tell me again why you can't strap cloths to your boobs and
>dust the furniture?").  Sounds like he's just some dumb college kid out for
>attention w/shock value.  On the other hand, there may be a cultural mirror
>here that Jody is unwittingly using to reflect some vague societal backlash
>(e.g., I don't know how many times I've heard folks piss and moan, 'there
>are just too damn many of those handicapped parking places.' et.al.).
Let's
>face it, we're all a pain in the ass to somebody.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael H. Collis [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 2:24 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Betty/Jody Dunkel
>
>
>Joanne, For your information, Jody's a male, and I take great offense in
>his attitude, which may have something to do with his testosterone
>levels being too high... thinking with his gonads instead of his
>brain...   Maybe we should bobbitize him?
>Mike
>Joanne Fitzgerald wrote:
>>
>> Okee, so I read the Jody Dunkel thing, and while I was reading the post
>> that she wrote I wasn't aware of her sarcasm, I would be if she was
>> SPEAKING to me. It's all a matter of 'no voice inflection'.
>>
>> She apologized, that's enough. It was an error in judgement, and we ALL
>> make those. Hers got a little more attention then she baragained for, I'd
>> say she learned her lesson.
>>
>> Joanne

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