A few weeks ago, and a few weeks before that, I wrote this list about my problems with a Creative SB Live! soundcard simply not "existing" while installed in my 200 mmx. (This happened suddenly, after installing a modem, but the card will work in OTHER machines.) I detailed how I had tried to change the card to a different PCI slot, how I had removed ALL cards except the video card, rebooted, and then reinstalled just the soundcard, to no avail. I tried many different variations in the BIOS's peripheral set up screen, letting BIOS handle it automagically, trying it manually, etc. I need to stress that this isn't a Windows not seeing the card problem, this is a BIOS not seeing the card problem. At boot the Award BIOS lists all the cards that are installed (except, to my chagrin, the soundcard of course) and back when the Creative was listed, Windows would see and make use of it. Now that it's not, of course Windows is sure it is an abused sound less OS. Things I have tried since then. - -Tried getting latest bios update from Azza and patching. -Tried having near fatal hard disk crash, losing most of the data, and installing a *CLEAN* copy of Win98SE. (Ok, that one was sort of forced on me, I admit.) -Contacted both Creative's and Azza's tech support departments, both were less than stellar helpers. As you can guess, each said to check with the other, or assumed it was a driver problem. I'm having a hard time convincing either that it's not a driver problem. -In a non-denominational sort of way, smeared myself with paste and burned an I-Mac in effigy. (Thanks Bill Watterson, of Calvin and Hobbes fame.) None of this has worked, and I'm totally lost. Right now I really can't go out and buy a new motherboard, processor, case, and several sticks of PC-100, much as I would like to. Does anyone have ANY more ideas not involving driver issues? The copy of 98SE on there has never had a sound card driver set installed, because no soundcard has autodetected. (Which the creative SHOULD do, if BIOS would recognize it.) -Peter Ramins PCBUILD's List Owner's: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]>