Message text written by "BP - \"Is this the list with all the ivy haters?\"" >Mike, Like I said, it's a good thing. Does this mean I've been wrong to look down my nose at the $1.99/bottle spring-water straw-users? Will I be better preserved, or just less painted inside, then they? Sometimes $1.99 water is just municipal water in a fancy bottle. Other times the sodium content is astrnomical. Ethanol, by the way, is quite effective at attacking many kinds of coatings, even including some epoxies. I never realized that I had done so much paint remover research in college. Ralph And by the way, leaving Scotch for Elijah would be a BIG error. No fermented grain stuff that week-- beer either. On the other hand, I've been known to justify eating pizza becasue it's flat.< I did a box lunch at a firm in NY last Spring during Passover, and was impressed by a guy with a yarmulke who brought in matzoh to eat with the ham sandwiches. I didn't ask. Mike E.