My ISP has changed hands, and the address has been changed, consequently messages I've had messages bounced. Here is the message I sent: At present I go half-way across the city to get Demeter certified beef. I buy it in chunks so it doesn't spoil so fast, and it lasts a week in the fridge. ie its grass-fed, organic and tasty! How do you find the ground meat? and is it organic? Lynton