I think your problem comes from having a folder named programs and a folder named Program Files. Somewhere in your start up files some thing is trying to start a program in C:/progra~1/ ... but is getting the programs folder instead. You could test this by renaming the Programs folder and rebooting and see if you problem is solved. If it is, you need to permanently rename the Programs folder or find the entry. What you do is going to depend on what you have installed in the Programs folder. If it is not a lot of things you might just rename the folder and reinstall those programs. If there are a lot of programs you'll need to look for the entry, probably in the registry . One way to do this is to go to system configuration utility in system information and start unchecking things in the start up folder tab. Through trial and error you could find out which entry is the cause. McAfee Virus Scan did this to me. Then you need to go into the registry and change the path to long file names. That will stop the folder from loading. Ben Moore ----- Original Message ----- From: jrizzo <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 1:13 PM Subject: [PCSOFT] Log on Hello, when I start up my Computer windows 98 introduction appears as it should, however, another folder also appears called programs with various other folders in its windows. This folder, programs is a normal folder and if I want to use it later or any other time I would go there and o-en it but I don't want it on my start up and trying a few things got me nowhere. Can someone tell me how to remove it from appearing on start up? Thank You Joseph Curious about the people moderating your messages? Visit our staff web site: http://nospin.com/pc/staff.html