I just wanted to echo Ward's invitation to all raw-food listmembers to visit the new web site, Beyond Vegetarianism, at http://www.beyondveg.com Putting the site together has entailed a major effort by those involved. I too am feeling some fatigue from the effort, and might refrain from participation in discussion of site topics, on this list. However, listmembers are (of course) welcome to freely discuss the site topics on this list. As the new web site is large and some topics are addressed in multiple articles, I would suggest (in the interest of promoting well-informed discussions) that listmembers read as much of the site material as possible, before engaging in detailed discussions. I hope that you find the site to be of interest. Tom Billings http://www.beyondveg.com