In a message dated 99-06-28 00:53:43 EDT, you write:

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 > I love ivy as well......and would Love to Know this "pad clinging ivy"
spoken
 > of...
..There is a type that is non harmfull to masonry....on Morningside Drive
behind Cathedral st.John...what type it is I know not...any botanists out
there?

signed Green with Ivy