Rex: >Those on this list that have raised livestock know that a huge percentage of >the eat-this/eat-that/cook-it/don't-cook-it dietary arguing here is so much >b.s. For instance, those people know that good hay makes for thriving >animals and poor-quality hay makes for sickly, non-producers. And they often do better with mineral blocks which include what raw foodists would consider non-foods (free minerals, mollasis, etc.). And modern chicks usually do better with grain supplements (sometimes including borderline stuff) even if allowed to forage. We, too, are a domesticated animal and that may have changed some of the nutritional rules for some of us. Cheers, Kirt Secola /\ Nieft [log in to unmask]