Personally, I disagree with Victor Herbert's politics, namely his anti- alternative health views. However, Herbert is a respected researcher in the area of vitamin B-12, and we should try to separate our views of his politics, and our views of his B-12 research. His research is published in peer-reviewed, established scientific journals. (Do his critics on the B-12 issue, meet that standard?) A further complication here is that Herbert's research shows that true B-12 is not available in the only natural plant foods (algaes) that supposedly contain it. This information upsets the radical vegan crowd, who will go to any lengths (including, in some cases, lying and putting the health of others at risk) to "prove" that veganism is natural. So, some of the attacks on Herbert may be motivated by the venom of radical vegans desperately clinging to the myth that vegan diets are natural. And yes, I agree that dishonest plagiarists like NFL do far more damage to raw and alternative health, than Herbert does. People look at the toxic trio, and assume that all rawists/alternative health types are wacko fanatics. Further, the mentally unbalanced crank science types pushing bizarre "protein is toxic" theories are yet another embarassment to the raw/alternative health movements. Tom Billings [log in to unmask]