Jeff, welcome to raw-food. >First let me introduce myself a little bit. My name is Jeff Ross, >and I've been a raw-foodist for more than 28 years, alyhough >I just started using the internet. I just came back from a long trip in >south east asia. 28 years on a raw diet - that is very impressive. Please share with us a bit about your diet and state of health. >I thought that would be a great idea to join a raw-list, I guess I was >wrong. Not necessarily. I think if you hang out with us a little, you will find that we are not so bad. :-) > You guys are just a bunch of filthy, disgusting cooked food addicts. Which is exactly why this list was started 3 years ago as a support group for people wanting/needing to bring raw foods into their lives. >Putting down the only book worth reading, NFL, Jeff, you have been out of the country for quite a while, and I think if you looked around, you would find there are much better books out on the topic. >and trying to destroy the youth's attempt to restore this world to its magesty, This is indeed a very noble quest but you must realize that there are not only many opinions on how to manifest this vision and but also differences on its nature and form. >all the problems being caused by YOUR bread. I agree that refined cereals are the cause of many of the health problems facing mankind today but for people who can tolerate grain products, low-heat essene bread or flatbread can be beneficial when consumed in moderate amounts. Peter: >>This is not about compassion or science but an all out war against the >>evil, cooked forces that are destroying our planet. And it is time for >>you to decide whose side you are on - the cooked scum or the valiant >>raw!!! :-) Jeff: >You bet you're a scum. Let me guess - you must be among the valiant raw. ;-) Fred: >>>I suddenly realized that all that, all the city and everything, was the >>>direct concequence of an unknowing human putting a piece of dead animal >>>over a fire millions of years ago. Peter: >>Water diluted his blood stream causing his brain to be undernourished >>with moral decay and social mayhem to follow. ;-) Jeff: >I think that kid perfectly understood the basic cause of problems >afflicting humanity, Not if he is so naive to think that cooked foods are the main reason for the many problems we face in today's world. >and you guys are just trying to put him down by your stupid humor. I had no wish to put Fred down. I was trying to bring in some light-hearted perspective into the equation but you were obviously not amused. :-( Fred: >You better hide well Peter, cause I promise your as s's gonna be kicked >bad when I see you, scum. Jeff, the point I was trying to make with my satire, though clearly not with complete success, was that we need to be careful not to take ourselves and the "raw cause" too seriously and to make sure we lighten up now and then. There is after all much more to life than what we put in our stomachs, and if we want the world to take raw foods more seriously, I think it is important that we are good examples ourselves of how to integrate diet into a balanced way of life. One of the lessons I have learned on my raw food path is that when I start loosing my sense of humor, it is time for me to bring more cooked foods back into my diet. - Give me a cooked smile over raw rigidity, any day. ;-) Best, Peter [log in to unmask]