Gregg, you ask for a reply, so I'll do as you do, with ever so many fewer words (is many fewer too opaque?) in exclamatory thickets, and less wind. Both 'conventions' (precise times and 'full' names) are trivial to some. Their only connection to food is When dining occurs and Who dines. You'll soon be spared this writer's irksome anonymity and evil-intentioned lack of respect for Time, since I must be about my concerns... but others won't be spared long posts that say little, echoing dear Gil spiritually. Thanks, though, for showing that not only fruitarians become petty tyrants and grumps... as they say, Raw Is Poison... Pet