Jo, << Could it be that I've lost my aggressiveness due in part to nixing animal products? ;) >> On the contrary, the 'tone' I thought I thought I was picking up through the phone lines seemed more to me like a pretty agressive defense of the NFL-guys, wether or not that was your intent. I know that plant diets are supposed to make people more docile, and fruitarian diets in particular are supposed to make people into the expression of pure compassionate love. But I certainly haven't seen that to be even vaguely similar to the reality of how the self-avowed vegans or fruitarians actually behave. In fact, if I was asked to describe my own perspective on this issue, I would probably say that people who forego animal products tend to act worse the longer they stay on the diet, that fruitarians seem to be the most rabidly agressive of all, and that rational thinking and behavior appear to have a direct negative correlation with the restriction of the varieties of foods included in one's diet. Have you noticed anything similar? Or have you actually noticed that people that you know who eat animal products are more agressive, as you hinted above? I'm curious about your actual experience, not party lines. Love Liza [log in to unmask] (Liza May)