Hi Tom, You wrote: << how to kill a social movement, by joining the movement and engaging in the behaviors listed. Notice that all/nearly all of the (destructive) behaviors listed, are standard practice for many raw food extremists (zealots, fanatics, the promoters of crank science). >> Thanks for this great reference - the paper sounds very interesting to me. Thanks also, in generak, for caring so much. Two intetesting questions popped into my head today, because of your post. Maybe you have thought about these and might have some responses. My questions are: Does the community of raw-foodists, with its history, books, culture, and all, actually constitute a "movement?" And, why would it be beneficial to foster a raw-food movement? Thanks again for your commitment and all your hard work over the years. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Love Liza [log in to unmask] (Liza May)