Beverle and Lisa, That's great. But some of us aren't high on life. Yes I feel better on this diet. I have more energy. A goal? Lately, the best goal I can muster seems to be not to gain any weight, because I sure as hell can't lose any. But that's all besides the point. The point is, some people enjoy mild intoxication. And some use it for religious purposes. Look back through folklore. The Native Americans are a good example. This discussion wasn't meant to evoke judgements based on personal belief systems, and I really hope it doesn't go that way. After a lifetime of being judged about my weight, the last thing I'm here for is more summary judgement about how I choose to live my life, especially when I'm not hurting anyone. (Hey, maybe I'm reading an undertone into this thread that's not there. If I am, sorry. Guess I'm a little sensitive lately<g>.) Thanks, John Pavao ---------- Lisa: Thank you! I have been wondering the same thing. Maybe I don't get it, but feeling so great and having energy and a "goal" is all the intoxication I need. I walk out into my yard at 4:30 in the morning with the soft breeze and the sun peaking up red on the horizon and what would I miss with a drug or intoxicant in my body? No thanks! Beverle