Here's a good spot for me to make a point: I'm not an expert in any way in this area, nor do I play one on TV. I'm just someone who likes to think a lot and comes up with lots of ideas. And, of course, I love to argue! If anyone has the idea that I think I'm some kind of expert, let me dispel that right now! But if you say something that sounds specious, I'm gonna jump in and call you on it. (Kinda like Todd does to me<g>.) But that was a very nice thing to say, Elsa. Welcome, and thanks. John Pavao ---------- I would like to thank John and Todd (and countless others) for providing this list with thoughtful and insightful dialogs that help to inform and educate those of us less knowledgeable (at least me) in the Paleo way.