Hi Kirt, << [Hey aren't you instinctos supposed to be handling this kinda post? Or does the raw goat's milk scare you away? ;)] >> What would be so scary about raw goat's milk? The dairy? The high fat? Goats? << Strange by our cultural standards maybe, but HIGHLY nutritious attractions you're having, no? >> Yes, nutritious, it's just that......welll........I'm enjoying eating these things SOOOO much - there's got to be SOMETHING wrong! ;-) Isn't there SOME reason I shouldn't be eating them??? ;-)) << Fatty seafood is considered to be useful in detoxing dairy. (Fruit is supposedly more for detoxing grains.) >> Very interesting. I guess I ought to finish Burger's book, if this is where theories like this are found. Is there any attempt at a biochemical explanation for why one food would detox another? Or Is it mostly based on lots of personal stories? I guess I'll check the archives for discussions about instinctive eating. Detoxing dairy? Well I certainly ate huge quantities of both raw and pasteurized cow's milk in every form conceivable all throughout my childhood - we were raised on dairy. And about 4 years ago a RAST test indicated that I am allergic to it. It's been many many years since I've eaten any cow's milk in any form, so I was surprised to see these results (RAST tests are not very reliable). But maybe that's why I'm enjoying the mackerel so much. Very interesting! Thanks for the info!! << Personally, I had some _really_ cheesy shits during my honey days which correlated exactly with my pound or more consumptions of honey.>> Do you mean cheesy smell? Or appearance? Are you saying that you think that honey also detoxes dairy? If so, that would also explain my great interest (these are polite terms ;-)) ) in honey. And if your theory about raw dairy detoxing cooked has anything to it - then my current food interests would certainly indicate that I am on a personal mission to detox dairy like its never been detoxed before in the history of civilization. One most definately peculiar thing is that I seem to have developed a lot of phlegm in my lungs and mucous in my eyes (my eyes seem to be just oozing for no reason). I never ever ever get colds, flu, or any viruses at all. I can't remember the last time I was sick with anything. And I don't feel the least bit sick now either - and yet I have this strange new mucous. I don't know whether to think that all the quantities of dairy I'm eating is _causing_ the fornation of excessive mucous, whether its some sort of allergic reaction, or, whether this is an elimination of toxins in some way. It's a surprise to me. I was a smoker 20-some years ago - so, could this be some elimination from my lungs? Who knows!!. And as a child I was famous in my family for ALWAYS having conjunctivitis (a mucousy discharge and inflammation of the eyes - might be called "pink-eye" - I think its a contagious virus). So maybe that's the eye discharge. But again, - who knows! << I understand (but don't appreciate really) your worries about honey, but what's wrong with mackeral and/or raw goat's milk? Nutritional powerhouses both.>> I think I'm just not accustomed to eating this way - in other words, such a lack of variety. I keep thinking I should try to eat other things. But now that I'm trying to pay attention to what I am actually interested in, instead of eating what I "think" should be the healthiest diet for my needs, I'm finding that not very much looks appealing. It's an unsettling feeling. But mackerel, goat's milk and honey SURE LOOK GOOOOD. YUMMMM!! I'M DROOLING JUST WRITING THE WORDS. << Further, if you are getting away with any mixing of the fish, milk, and honey at the same meal it is a good guess that you are really "needing" it since they are theoretically a bad mix. >> Not at the same "meal," but a few hours later I'll want a different one of the three. << And BTW, a feeling of repleation IS a stop and you are right not to eat any more. Someone once said that if you are even thinking about a stop, that that's a stop because when a food is really tasting good you are enjoying it en todo. If the pleasure isn't high enough that you are wondering, is this a stop, is that a stop, then you've had enough ;) >> This is very helpful Kirt. The phrase that comes to mind is "Oh - in other words I should just trust my instincts." That seems embarassingly stupid for this conversation. Now the phrase that comes to mind is "Na... Duh." << I, of course, ate any new food to a stop and then ate some more to make absolutely sure it was a stop--you only do this once with any particular food. >> ;-)) You sound like a happy instinctive glutton. ;-) << Sit down with a couple bunches of celery and an empty stomach and if you don't get a stop...well, what can I say, you're an instincto flunky then ;) >> I must have an instincto graduate degree, because I'm getting a stop just thinking about celery. Uugghh. Kirt, thanks for this most enlightening (and actually supportive, and exciting) reply. I'm off to pick up 12 more pounds of honey from my bewildered neighbor. Love, Liza [log in to unmask] (Liza May)