David - Thanks for the update on JR's raw list. It raises interesting questions as to whether honesty and integrity are indeed welcome on his list. Maybe the NFL gang, and their thoughtless allies, need a new slogan: "Raw is law, integrity is cooked". :-( Recently I was harassed by a local NFL supporter. This was a person that I used to respect because, even though he advocated fruit diets and I opposed them, I respected his integrity. However, as his support for NFL grew, his integrity and judgement seemed to evaporate. All that seems to matter to him now is convincing people to follow the one true religion of the 100% raw diet, and he seems to think it is OK to plagiarize and misrepresent (steal and lie), harass and threaten, and apply the other toxic methods of the NFL gang. Such a wonderful, ideal, loving place the "brave raw world" will be; a world where "might is right" and "the end justifies the means"! :-( Perhaps the raw movement is splitting - no big deal, as it is in portions already - into two parts: a realist/honest wing, and the fanatic/cult wing. Will the cult wing build a commune, "Fruit-town", in San Diego? :-) If so, will they force their members to attend drills where they must drink grape kool-ade? :-) P.S. apologies to sensitive souls for the warped humor above. Regards, Tom Billings [log in to unmask]