Fred: >For everybody on the raw-food list As an outsider observer of what's going on with the >NFL controversy, as also as being personal friend and assistant of NFL, I felt that the >time was right to give my opinion on the matter. I wonder why you got this sudden impulse. Have the NFL boys given up speaking up for themselves? Can we expect that you will begin answering some of the many questions that they have been ducking for so long? :-) >I've seen that since the begining of NFL activities, many people on this >list and elsewhere have over the course of time, or since the beginning >developped an anti-NFL attitude. Is that an understatement. :-) >This would seem, to the outside observer, to be only a problem of different opinion. As a personal friend and assistant you hardly qualify as an "outside observer" - more like an "inside footman" if you ask me. ;-) >The strong vegan position of NFL may contratict with meat eating fad, or to the flimp >and whimp approach that health seekers have been used to the present. You call plagiarizing their main body of work "a strong vegan stand"? - seems more like a weak moral stand to me. ;-) Besides, you make it sound as if NFL have had something new & fresh to contribute when the truth is that the vegan, raw, high fruit diet has been promoted by numerous health advocates since the beginning of this century. No, NFL, the Milli Vanelli of raw foods, is a fad in the passing. :-) >But the real reason why some so-called raw-foodists try to bring down NFL is >because they realise that something actualy get done. NFL makes me proud of eating cooked foods. The more I hear of NFL, the more cooked foods I want to eat - it is like making a personal & political statement. In fact, NFL has been instrumental in helping me get over my long-time obsession with eating my foods raw. If they keep this up and regard this as an accomplishment, in a few years there might not be many people left eating raw foods. ;-) >These guys are not joking, either the whole world goes raw or we will inforce it by >law! This might be a good opportunity to announce the start-up of "COOKED", the Cooked Foods Liberation Movement, whose sole purpose will be to defend the rights of cooked food eaters and overthrow the coming raw rulership of NFL. :-) >The compromise approach never works. Never say never. :-) The experience of myself and many others has been that compromise & moderation often are the only roads leading to glory. >Was there really something going on in the raw-food world before NFL? No, before NFL there was only the darkness of the wretched cooked eaters condemned forever to a life of depraved drudgery. :-) > Would anyone have thought of the possibility of raw-promotion on OPRAH show >before(that's gonna happen). Operah will show off NFL as the latest sideshow from nutty, fruity California. This will benefit her ratings and probably set back raw foods another couple of decades. As I have expressed before, I think that NFL has been planted by the cooked food industry to divide and weaken the raw foods movement. ;-) >Things are really moving fast, and it's certainly not because of a bunch >of baked potatoes eaters. NFL has picked you well. Has it ever occurred to you that one of the main reasons that NFL has become so increasingly unpopular, is their propensity for using the kind of name-calling that you are resorting to right now? >Ladies and gentlemen, the opponents of NFL will say anything to bring them down. Speaking up against their tactics of deceit, threats and ridicule will hopefully contribute to bring them down but nobody could ever do as good job at it as NFL themselves. They will never be able to shake their embarrassing image as greedy plagiarists - just ask Milli Vanelli. ;-) >Results is the only measure of sucess. And hollow slogans are the signatures of defeat. ;-) >So what type of writing do you think that will really save lives, NFL or the SF Life's newsletter? SF-LIFE's newsletter, naturally. :-) >Yours in controversy. There can be no controversy without content which your post has very little of. Furthermore, it is written in the usual NFL style of chest-drumming, crass self-promotion and empty slogans which invites to conflict, not peace and dialog. This is hardly something to be proud of but I understand that such sensitivities are probably of little concern to somebody who is to become one of the future rulers of the world. ;-) Best, Peter [log in to unmask]