Thank you Bill Bartlett. Between that sort of thing and a mess of files about automation (don't UK people have dictionaries?), and repetitive trivia posts about a few other issues, I have been considering unsubscribing to this listserv, despite some excellent files that do come across and which I redistribute to my classes. I would really appreicate it if contributors would try to maintain perspective about what's important and useful and what's not, and to conserve readers' time when they make posts. Dan Koenig