Thanks to Jean-Louis Tu for another excellent post! I wanted to quickly comment on one point. Jean-Louis: >We know that megadoses of antioxidants (vit. C, E, >Beta-carotene) are useful for people who suffer from heart disease. Now, of >course, you will ask "are any raw fooders suffering from heart disease?" Tom: I would mention here that I personally know one long-time raw vegan who suffered from heart disease (that person had several heart attacks). Also, T.C. Fry died of what was, effectively, heart disease - a blood clot became a stroke, and there was evidence of atherosclerosis per the autopsy. Of course, some will say that Fry cheated on the diet - there is an eyewitness account of him binge-eating, in the November 1996 issue of the "Health & Beyond" newsletter. The other point to note is that (in my opinion), most, perhaps all, of the current "leaders" of the fruitarian movement probably cheat as well... Regards, Tom Billings [log in to unmask]