But the whole concept of this diet, and therefore by extension this list, is purism. Hey, I'm not perfect in practice. But I don't post suggestions to the list about where I digress from the diet because this isn't the place for it. If I was still on the lowcarb list, then that would be a place for discussing such things. The discussion of non-paleo issues on this list degrades the list by turning it into nothing but a subset of the lowcarb list (as I remember it; I haven't been on it since spring). Not that I think there's anything wrong with the lowcarb list, but if I wanted to discuss those issues, I'd re-subscribe to the lowcarb list. Bringing non-paleo issues to this list only muddies the waters and gets discussion going in the wrong directions. It confuses the new people, especially the ones who haven't yet had a chance to read Neanderthin. I'd really like to see this list a little more "purist" than it has been lately <g>. My $0.02, John Pavao ---------- It may be a little outside the scope of this diet, but I'm not *that* much of a purist. I figure if it works for what I want it to and doesn't cause bad results, use it!