Right.  I've heard of it.  Got a buddy who swears by it.  I don't know how
"thermogenic" it really is; it supresses his appetite so much that he
doesn't eat, so he loses weight.  But what I was getting at is that it's
not something that people following Neaderthin would even consider.  When
you wrote "I would stick with [the ECA stack]" I could see how a newbie
might get confused and take that as an endorsement, especially one who
hasn't actually read Neanderthin.  That's all I meant.

Take care,
John Pavao

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        If you want to raise body heat and heart rate with the intention
of increasing the amount of calories used per hour, the standard stack is
asprin/cafiene/ephedrine.  Givin what Peat says his experience with
coconut oil is, I assume that this is what he wants to accomplish with it.
        I don't use any thermogenics.  I'm quite happy with the progress
I'm making, and don't want to mess it up with too many supliments.